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Old 12-06-2011, 01:15 PM   #1
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Hudson Guest Bath

OK, so this project won't really start until next fall, assuming Mr. Wendy and I both have jobs then, but I figured it's never too early to start another endless thread.

This bath is 5'x8' at the studs and shares a wet wall with my now tricked-out master bath. We're not changing any fixture locations in the standard design, but the one thing we want for this room is a soaking tub. And here's where I could use some help. I can't seem to find what I want.

1. Freestanding
2. Fits in a 59" x 32" space
3. Not too heavy (which eliminates the lovely concrete ofuro I found online)
4. Deep (I'd say at least 23" water depth so it's shoulder high)
5. Not so much water that I'd have to install an extra heater.
6. Not outrageously expensive. I'd rather not go much over $2K, not counting the plumbing.

I've been looking at clawfoot, plinth and ofuro types. We both like this sort of design, but they only have it in copper. No way am I maintaining a copper tub.

I would also be open to building my own, but even with the good waterproofers we have now it would still be a truly evil project, what with all the stresses deep water brings.

So, has anyone seen the perfect tub?
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:32 PM   #2
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Model LFLPT224 from these guys might work. They are used around here a lot. The juxtaposition of this classic design with your "tricked-out" bath would be jaw-dropping!












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Old 12-06-2011, 01:38 PM   #3
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Ooh, you had me right up until I saw "100 gallons". Plus that bar across the middle might interfere with bathing. But good start!
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Old 12-06-2011, 01:43 PM   #4
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The bar makes a convenient place to hang your wash cloth.


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Old 12-06-2011, 02:09 PM   #5
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You reckon a girl is gonna be able to rebuild a whole bathroom?
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Old 12-06-2011, 04:13 PM   #6
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I'm sure one could. I'm sure I could after my practice on the master. Luckily I don't have to. Mr. Wendy is at least as good at his specialties as I am at mine. So let's not sell the dude short. Do you know he offered to clean my tools and buckets every time I laid tile? And he followed through too. My hero.

The guest bath is also "his" bath, so he gets final choice on everything that goes in. He's not a big fan of plinth baths (look like giant coffee cups, he says) but will accept one if necessary. I think he'd like the stock tank better.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:38 PM   #7
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Wendy,

Check out this one on Signature Hardware's site:

http://www.signaturehardware.com/pro...product-search

At 23" height it's a bit shorter than you'd like, but it looks really good and the price sounds good at around $1400.

Your choices in freestanding tubs would hugely increase for 60" length, as this seems to be the minimum for many brands.
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Old 12-06-2011, 06:45 PM   #8
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Yeah, I'm at 60" stud to stud, and then I have to add drywall. Like most of the tubs on the Signature site, once you look at the specs, the water depth is 17 1/2". I have a few tubs there bookmarked, but I still have a year to find something better.
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Have you given any thoughts to alcove tubs, since what you seem to have is an alcove?
I do agree that freestanding tubs look really good, BUT, me thinks that's at least partly due to all the SPACE they typically have around them. Without that extra space I imagine the effect to be awkward and cramped.
Plus, how are you gonna clean around/behind it?
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Now you're getting all practical. I'm hoping it will still look good if I go smaller than the space. The big visual advantage of a clawfoot is that the floor continues under the tub, making the room look a bit bigger.

Also, if I do an alcove tub I should really do a tub surround, which would not allow for the stacked stone wall I want. With a freestander, it looks natural to have a shower curtain that goes all the way around.

Did I mention my decorating taste isn't exactly..er...subdued? At least when it comes to bathrooms. Lloyd described the look we seem headed for as "steampunk goes camping".
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:57 PM   #11
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Framing question

Finding nothing but disappointment in the world of freestanding tubs, I'm now looking into the Kohler Greek bath. I would install it in the alcove, but as a drop-in, and still use a full circle shower curtain on the rare occasion a guest needed it as a shower. It's gotten good reviews from people who've installed it.

In going through the install guide (what there is of it), it looks like it is supported on feet and set in a mortar bed within whatever deck framing is used. The floor framing needs to be able to support 61lbs/sq ft. Is there a handy reference (like our deflecto) somewhere that will tell me if I'm there or how to get there? Or maybe Bob could run it through his prodigious brain...
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Have you checked out the Bain tubs?

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Pretty. And almost none fit in our small space. If physics were no object (or money for that matter) I'd love a Sonoma Stone ofuro. But they weigh 800lbs before you even fill one with water. Nope. Not above my kitchen.
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Bumping for Bob. Check out post 11, oh engineering guru...
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The deflecto uses 50 psf in the calculations. The weight is linear in the calculations, so if you need 61 psf, make the floor 22% stiffer. That would be L/440 or so.
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