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Unread 05-31-2011, 05:45 PM   #1
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apply grout the same day as tile?

Hi all,
I have a bid for a kitchen backspash. The contractor said it is OK to tile and grout on the same day. Is this OK?
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Unread 05-31-2011, 06:03 PM   #2
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Ken,

If the installer uses a rapid set thinset which is appropriate for the specific tile being installed, then grouting the same day is possible. WHat type of tile are you installing? Type and brand of thinset?
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Unread 05-31-2011, 06:06 PM   #3
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We have probably all done it on small jobs and repairs. You can get by with it when using rapid set thinset and when using the same color grout as thinset, such as white grout and white thinset. I wouldn't want to use a light colored grout over gray thinset, the dark colored thinset could bleed up into the light grout. It's best to wait if you can.
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Unread 05-31-2011, 07:23 PM   #4
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I'm using a glass mosaic (small square) tiles. Will that work with rapid set thinset? Also, the contractor said he'll seal it in the same day, too. Can that work? Basically he said he would finish the job, about 30 square feet of backsplash including grouting and sealing in one day.
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Ken, are you in a race, or have a bet going for the fastest tile job?

If a guy is fast enough, he might get all that done in a day, but virtually no sealer co will advise you to seal same day. You could use one of those mixed-in grout sealers by Miracle Sealants tho

Unless there is something really important about beating the clock, I'd let the guy tile with care.
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Welcome Ken,

Kitchen backsplash with 30 SQFT of glass mosaics, setup, layout, cut everything, grind/polish exposed edges, install everything, grout, caulk changes of plane, seal everything & cleanup in 1 day with 1 guy?

Can you post some photos of the space?

edit; and what specific tile are you planning on?
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Unread 05-31-2011, 08:07 PM   #7
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thinset sets up pretty quick on hardi board[ no build up of thinset]....ive grouted in the same day, but this was because the job was way up in the mountains on a fire trail,needed a 4 wheel drive in low 4 for 1 hr steady, i wasnt goin back....if not a situation then why the big hurry?
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Thanks all. I don't want the job to be done that fast. The contractor said he'd do it in one day. I'm just trying to decide if he's credible or not. He quoted me $340 for the job, with me providing the tiles, grout, and the sealant on the grout. Any thoughts?
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Unread 05-31-2011, 08:11 PM   #9
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I always give my clients refrences......other clients, tile supplier, etc..
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Unread 05-31-2011, 08:12 PM   #10
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Lately, for small bath floors, Ive been using up the Laticrete 253R gold and Permacolor grout and Love it! Last job, had the floor set by 9:30, grouted at 1:00 and the toilet back in around 5:30 for a 1 bathroom house. My customers loved it!
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The price seems low for glass tile BS install....

Does anyone make a rapid set in white? All our glass installs are done with white thinset.
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laticrete 253R Gold comes in white
Customs(Home Depot) Speed Set comes in white also
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Unread 06-01-2011, 09:00 AM   #13
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Not a big fan of installing glass mosaic with rapid set. That is if you want it to last a while, might as well use mastic in that case.....but if rapid set IS used you can grout the same day.

The grout has to cure prior to being able to actually absorb sealer from 48 to 72 hours.

If something sounds too good to be true, chances are it is. sounds like you are in for a ride.
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