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Unread 03-30-2009, 08:55 PM   #1
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The Frankengueuze shower "system" - a tutorial

Start- pre cut wire lath for mud floor
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tape CBU, flashpatch walls a bit with thinset.
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Nail down lath and paper-
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Next... mudding in the Schluter drain!

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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:04 PM   #2
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Mix mud-
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Ready to go- the drain p-trap is not installed yet in this one, so I am not gluing the drain to the pipe.

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Lath and drain bottom liberally dosed with laticrete 254 paltinum.
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Put some mud in between...
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Squish it in!
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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:08 PM   #3
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Hi gueuze,

I never thought about buttering the back of the drain with thinset to get more bondage with the deck mud and the drain....interesting.

Do you always work cross-legged as your first photo suggests?
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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:09 PM   #4
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A little thinset on the lath, whatever flavor you happen to have a bit of...
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Set your pitch...in this case, 1/2"
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Finished mud. Sise to sied Ben kenobee method, how I learned from the old masters.
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O.K., so up to now there han't been any real deviations from normal methods, unless your methods are different.

Time to upload the next batch of pics showing the Mapei HPG and fabric!

Stay tuned.....

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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:12 PM   #5
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Rob, Ive thought of epoxying wire lath to the bottom of the drains to get them to bond better, a design flaw in my opinion.

As for cross legged, not even dyslexic. When they're not strapped on I find it better to have the straps not bunched in the middle.

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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:18 PM   #6
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Gz,

The one major issue that I have had with the Kerdi drains is the "slight" amount of separation that has occurred by the next morning after we have set the drain.** I don't know if the fat mud shrinks a little or what, but it seems that sometimes the flange of the drain doesn't want to stay in total contact with the mud. I like the idea of something on the underside that has bondability with thinset.


** on those occasions, we have mixed thinset really loose and pushed it as well as possible in under the drain and parged it into the trapezoids, and all was well then.
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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:45 PM   #8
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How wet are you making your mud for under the drain? I have found that if you push on the outer edges of the drain to get it to squish down or to level it I get that separation but if I make sure to only push in the center part of the drain it doesn't get "loose".
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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:50 PM   #9
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G,

Why tape the CBU seams if you are going to be using fabric?
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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:52 PM   #10
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The drain mud is no wetter than the rest of the floor mud, the "stick comes from the thinset.

gueuze- resizer of pics for those afflicted with the internet explorer browser.

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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:53 PM   #11
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Old habit. Cheap insurance.

gueuze- now for the "blue" movie......
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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:55 PM   #12
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Hi Bryan, I have experimented with the mud under the drain, but I'm not sure what mix seems to be the best. I don't do a lot Kerdi showers so I don't have the experience that a lot of the guys here have. We do have on to do fairly soon and I will pay closer attention to the mud and the drain.



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Unread 03-30-2009, 09:59 PM   #13
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Gz ,


Have you ever used the Kerdi curb?
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Mud floor was done on Friday and sat for the weekend. Now it's Monday. So you pre-cut as much fabric as you can manage to keep track of....

Mapei mesh is used for the bigareas and mer-crete 8" woven fabric is cut into 4" strips for the corners and such. 8" wraps the curbs really well.


Note mark on far wall as gauge to cut to.

Ready....set.....go!






Note nearly non-existant corner buildup... this is the first coat of 2.



more coming....

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Hey Rob

I'm out...I need my beauty sleep!
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