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Unread 11-26-2008, 07:03 PM   #1
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hey guys happy thanksgiving to everyone

i just got granite installed today on my countertops so trask this is a good one for you or any other fabricator, the one peice looked wet when the installers were putting it in and i said hey is that wet and he said yeah well 5 hours later and its still wet it looks stained to me, i tried to scrub it with soap and water i dont know much about granite all we do is granite tile so now i have a fan on it seeing what happens? ill call the slab place friday but i dont want to,any suggestions? some tilesetter i am, this is a first for me
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1st one is the stain 2nd isnt
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i just forked out 1600 bux in a bad economy for a stained granite slab that may not dry for months? im sorry i dont think so i just drove 1 hour to get my onyx for my backsplash to install this weekend and now im skeptical to do it
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Unread 11-26-2008, 07:53 PM   #6
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Hi Derrick

I am skeptical about them calling that a water stain. Did they use water when they installed?

The stone you have probably could do well with a sealer anyway, as it looks pretty porous. Is that Juparana Paradiso/Paradiso Bash? It normally does not take very long to dry out completely. (Stones like Giallo Antico could take a few weeks to dry, but not this one.) The only reason it might take longer to dry is if they sealed right over the wet spot or if the wetness (other cause of the mark?) comes up from below.

Is that the only spot with the wet mark?

Put a fan on the spot and see if the mark fades any. What did they use to glue the stone down? Is it 2cm or 3cm? Edit: I see in the picture you have a fan on there already!

Do not try to put solvents or anything - especially heat (as in a hair dryer/blow torch) on there if you are not 100% sure what the cause of the mark is. The wrong removal method could end up setting the stain and causing a bunch of other problems.
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its thick paradisco bash thats it they used silicone i think i wasnt here i was working i came to see then silicone it in and put the sink its measures 1 1/4 when i got the sample it dried fast
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Unread 11-26-2008, 08:44 PM   #8
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I think the only thing that would make that type mark would be something oil based,since the fan is doing nothing.Or maybe the silicone was spilled and wiped.Can you see the stain from underneath?If so i think it's oil based,if not maybe silicone.I've never worked with that stone but i would try a poultice for removing oil,a commercial type.But if one of the others knows this may spread the stain without removing it pipe up...http://stonerestorationsecrets.com/stonetech.htm or if it's silicone(which i think you could smell),this,but there is a possiblity it could spread the stain without completely removing it,this may be true of both materials.http://www.topoftheline.com/silicone-wax-remover.html
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im going to make them come out and fix it no the stain is just on top
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Try this to see if it is an oil stain: Put a piece of paper towel over the spot and weight it down with something flat & heavy (heavy book, ream of paper) and leave it a while. If it is oil, it should blot onto the paper towel a little.

Oil would come up with a poultice of acetone - fairly easy to DIY.

IMO: It does not look like a silicone stain. Those are normally big blobs on a regular interval, where the tops are glued to a sub top (2cm mostly) My guess is that one of the workers had a burger and fries for lunch and left the package on the counter.

You might want to do an absorption test regardless and/or find out what kind of sealer they used. If you are going to do an acetone poultice, you would need to reseal. That stone is quite thirsty and normally needs quite a bit of sealer.
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thanks i just tried that i just got home from being out last night, i dont know how long that will take it doesnt feel wet.

See I am a tile setter if someone has a complaint i will come out and fix it free of charge, so i feel like they need to make rgood on this. Just because i am in a similar trade,i feel i am not responsible to fix this. Theres a tile shop 10 minutes away that has a polstice for removing oils from stone it comes in a small plastic jar that silver polish would come in, but why should i pay for this unless this is going to be a problem with the rock, when i picked my slab i choose where i wanted my stone cut and there was no stains there when i picked these areas i wasnt born yesterday so im not going to buy into any bs that the installer tries to tell me that it was there already i have been doing marble and granite along with all the tile installs.


My main reason for this is i have a backsplash to install and before the plumber gets here i want to put it in so the faucets not in my way, will this stain removal be taken care of with the top in place?
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I would think it can be fixed in place with some cat litter or saw dust something to extract that stain out. On the other hand I think this is the responsiblility of the people who installed it and left it that way for you.

Onyx is not cheap so I would be damn sure you have a plan together before I tiled it in.
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especially the onyx chairail pieces i have planned for the picture frame by the sink, figures this stuff happens in your house, wait....did i mention there's matte glass 1x1s too?
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I'd make them take care of it, and don't mention that you've done anything to it, they can say you've made it worse or you caused it and they aren't responsible anymore. I've been on the other side of this kind of situation 9haven't we all) and we're expected to fix it before we get paid.
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i was going to cancel the check i mean if i do its got to be tonight that i do it i didnt do anything to it i put a towel on it and thats it soap and water big deal
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