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Old 02-14-2006, 08:35 PM   #1
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Saved her bacon

Guy's we saved a lady from a major problem down the road.
The facts.
I had an email over the weekend from a lady who was visiting the JB Forum and noted that I lived in her neck of the woods and wanted me to come out and give her a bid for a shower pan.
Went today and my gosh the forum saved her bacon. After reading a few posts and looking in the Liberry she knew that her backer board in the tub area was not installed properly and had them tear it out same with the shower pan. She knew there was no vapor barrier and she also wanted the CBU installed better and the seames taped. Didn't care for the "we never do that answer". Got the backer off to discover that there was no insullation in the exterier wall but also the nails for the siding had penetrated the water line to the mixing valve and shower head. Was only dripping just a little NOW.

The shower pan poured in the shower has to come out. The membrane only is about 31/2" high. Looked to me like there was no two piece drain. Only 2" pipe stubbed up. (will be just right for the Kerdi unit I will put in). Curb was a 2x4 on edge and the mud right up to the top of the curb with a flap of membrane exposed. Could see some of the inside corners of the membrane inside the pan and they had nails in them to (hold flat?) I don't know.

Our good deed for the day.
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Old 02-14-2006, 08:39 PM   #2
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That's good stuff
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:06 PM   #3
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Awesome.
As I have said many times this is the best information board out there.
It has improved my work beyond degree.
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:09 PM   #4
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Great story Jerry.
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:11 PM   #5
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Need to lobby for frederal or state tile inspection laws .

Hope she gives you a tip.
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Old 02-14-2006, 09:12 PM   #6
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Thanks for sharing the story Jerry. Glad you got the gig too!
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:33 PM   #7
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Old 02-14-2006, 10:46 PM   #8
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I ran a bid like that jerry.... Folks thought my bid was high.
Almost the exact type of scenario. I wonder how long it takes em
to be at the point where they can turn the shower on upstairs
and go back downstairs to the kitchen and take a rain shower
under the cieling.
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Old 02-14-2006, 11:11 PM   #9
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Got the backer off to discover that there was no insullation in the exterier wall but also the nails for the siding had penetrated the water line to the mixing valve and shower head.
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Great job, but the first thing to pop into my head was " they can have plumbing in an outside wall in Wa.? " Both in Co. and MT. that can't be done no matter what kind of insulation they have, and the fact that a siding nail was able to reach it is a little scary. Now that thier tile is being done right, maybe they should be worried about freezing pipes?
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Old 02-15-2006, 09:07 AM   #10
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great job! great info avaiable here
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:44 PM   #11
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I don't know for sure but I don't think there is any code that says you can't run the shower pipes in an outside wall. You know here on west side of the Cascades it doesn't get very cold often. This winter to date I'm going to guess the temp. has not been below 28.
What amazed me about this wall was how thin it was that the fasteners could reach the pipe. The other was it didn't look like they had put in any insullation. This house is a very old house and didn't have it originally but with a complete redo like is going on now?
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Old 02-15-2006, 05:26 PM   #13
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Jerry you need a purple heart man. ( or a john bridge heart) She gave him a tip alright 3 coookies and a galss of milk. but the real ? is are you taking over the job????
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Not been below 28 all winter? Must be nice, our high this Saturday is supposed to be 10 below. YYYYeeeessss -10. Thankfully we usually work inside.
I guess those pipes should be OK if its an old house and they haven't had a problem yet, but that does sound like a pretty thin wall.
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