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Old 02-03-2018, 07:48 AM   #1
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Metal putty knife/scraper okay to clean tile?

Yesterday, workers were washing the tile they laid throughout my home.
While I was standing nearby watching, the GC used a metal scraper/putty knife to (try to) remove thinset/mortar droppings. He seemed to use it gently, but it didn't remove the spot he used it on, so he may be scraping harder other times. He stopped and got up when it didn't come off.

If you've seen my other posts, you already know these are not tile specialists. GC and his crew do everything themselves - not unusual in this very rural area.
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Old 02-03-2018, 09:16 AM   #2
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Man, doesn't sound like these guys know their way around tile. Too many nights in Ray's Place and Coaches Corner. (ok, don't laugh, I put the new floor in Ray's Place a few years back)
From what I have seen going up there for 15 years, many GC's are Jack's of all trades and can do a little bit of everything. Not one thing particularly well unfortunately. My in-laws had their kitchen remodeled a few years ago and I put the tile floor in for them. It was a total gut with walls being moved and the footprint being changed around. I almost choked at the cheap price they paid and the quality of the work that came with it. But the inlaws were estatic the way it came out and how cheap it was to do. I just shook my head. Come to find out the 2 guys were laid off from Alcoa when they downsized and decided to start doing remodels. Very few specialized trades up there in North County.
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Old 02-03-2018, 09:18 AM   #3
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If porcelain or ceramic, no worries. Natural stone you have to be careful, but still doable. What kind of tile?

(Next time they should clean up as they go.)
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:07 PM   #4
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Craig: You're exactly right about the situation here! I'm experiencing real anxiety. Had to smile, though, about the local bars.

Mark: The tile is ceramic.

About the cleaning up as they go, that didn't happen. And I'm especially worried about this with the Flexcolor CQ grout - one has never used it; one has used it once, remains angry that the white he used had a yellowish tone and says he'll never use it again. They will very likely never look at the excerpts I copied from the Flexcolor thread here. as they are resentful when I offer info.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:30 PM   #5
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Remember Ann,you are paying the bill and you get to pretty much call the shots.
As for the Flexcolor, print out the technical data sheet and instructions for the guys. It's a great grout and when put down correctly, will look good and last a long time. It's not hard to apply and clean up. Just follow the instructions. They shouldn't resent instructions.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:35 PM   #6
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Yep, what Mark and Evan said. Having a wet sponge is handy when tiling. It's easier to clean up thinset while it's wet rather than wait till grouting. If they have a problem with Flexcolor, it will probably be grout haze left on the tiles. If so, have a bottle of "Lift off" handy for the next day clean up.
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Old 02-03-2018, 12:48 PM   #7
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Craig, I did print out the instructions for them earlier this week, thinking they might like them in advance. Just doubt they'll look at anything I give them.

May I ask: With Flexcolore, do you allow normal traffic (4 workers) after 24 hours when you use it? I was told it would be okay then. The directions say light traffic after 24 hours, full cure 3 days, so I'm wondering.
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You will be fine walking on it after 24. Heavy traffic kind of means rolling a refrigerator, stove or dragging something heavy over it.
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Davy,
Too late now... quite a lot of hardened thinset droppings.

Is "Lift off" readily available? Company?
It's important to get haze off before it sits too long, right?
I should probably buy a haze remover to have on hand?
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Craig, Thank for educating me about the amount of traffic that's okay!! (I'm taking this to mean it's okay for work to continue as usual at 24 hours, though wonder about bringing in cabinets for repair that soon.)
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Have to leave for a bit. Will check back here later.
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Grab me a Sergies pizza roll while you are out. I'll wait!
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Ann, I would wait to see if the haze is a problem. It's okay to use it the day after grouting. I have bought Lift off from Home Depot's paint dept. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Motsenbo...3-01/100047250
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Old 02-03-2018, 07:21 PM   #14
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I use flex color a lot. I use regular old Windex and a razor blade works like a champ. All depends on the tile if you will have a haze. Slick shiny tile is a pain in the a$$ no matter how many wipes or how clean the water it dulls out the shiny. But comes right off with a razor blade
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Sorry, Craig. Didn't go to Potsdam or Canton, so Sergi's is out :-) Bad driving tonight too.

Okay, Davy, I'll hold off on the haze remover, but keep Liftoff at HD in mind.

Shawn, On the Mapei thread, I noticed that others also use Windex. Razor too, huh? Do you use the Windex and razor as you grout, or the next day?

They didn't clean up thinset as they worked. Now it's hardened. Hope they get it all off before grouting.

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