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Unread 12-12-2016, 10:15 AM   #1
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bathroom remodel question

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We recently bought an older home and I was thinking of remodeling the bathroom. I want to tile the shower around the existing bath.
I was wondering if that is something that is acceptable to do? If you look at the pictures (please excuse the mess, this bathroom is currently in bad shape and nobody wants to use it) you will see that bathtub has like three layers that are connected, I was wondering if its ok to remove the top two layers of this plastic material, install hardibacker and waterproof it and tile and just leave the bottom piece of the bath as is.

Is that ok to do so or would you recommend I should remove everything and install a new bath, just not sure how its done. I do have some previous tiling experience, but Im not an expert by any means.

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Unread 12-12-2016, 11:52 AM   #2
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Because of the design of that type of enclosure, integrating a tiled surround isn't really feasible.

Removing and replacing tub and building a proper tiled surround is a significant project. Will eat both time and $$. DIY will help, but not a "quickie" kind of thing.
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Unread 12-12-2016, 07:38 PM   #3
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thanks fo rreply, I was afraid of that lol
but i do have time and a small budget. im not in a rush so i will give it a try. maybe it will take me a little longer but i want to do it right.

Should I start by removing everything then? taking it to the dump
So is there a specific bath that i should look for that is suitable for tile?
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Unread 12-12-2016, 08:14 PM   #4
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Just how small of a budget are you talking about? Proper waterproofing costs around $20 per sf, add tile, grout, thinset, backerboard, caulking.....
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Unread 12-12-2016, 09:22 PM   #5
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i have 2k available right now, i could probably allocate more $$ at a later date.
i think this should be a good start anyway, maybe buy some items on boxing day
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If that's US dollars you should be OK
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Unread 12-12-2016, 11:34 PM   #7
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$20 a sqft for waterproofing Paul? The DIY material cost for both liquid and sheet membrane from all the big boys is closer to $2 at most. Backerboard is another $1 at most. Preproofed foam board like Kerdi board is like $4ish. Still don't see how you got to $20.
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Unread 12-13-2016, 11:04 AM   #8
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American standard Porcelain tub around 265-280 Kohler 350 - 600 Minimum up to 1500.00 for top quality

Since you will be tiling, Spend some money and get a decent Porcelain tub...Mid quality Kohler.
tub - 600
CBU, thinset, Redgaurd - 240
Tile & Trim - 500
Incidentals - 100

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Plumbing , Sheetrock, Paint, Fan/ Light unit

Yea, you can do it for 2 grand if you are careful and spend Wisely for top quality where you should have it....

Add a couple hundred bucks for getting that new tub in place...You will need help and Beer is expensive

This American standards a Pretty good tub for the money also
https://www.build.com/american-stand...athtub/s132294
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Should i use regular Sheetrock and some schluther cover as someone suggested on other thread or would you recommend using cbu. I previously worked with hardibacker and it was a little tedious but I dont mind it and will do it again if its a better option over kerdi.

thanks for the price break down - it does help!

I should also mention that I'm in Canada, and my 2k budget is in CAN dollars.
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Unread 12-14-2016, 07:09 AM   #10
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Well if its canadian dollars no way....ROFL...

Choosing method is your call...Spend a little time in here researching...I have built alot of CBU ( Durock, Wonderboard etc)Tub Showers as have a thousand + other guys with much success....

Going the CBU route will cost a little less but the stuff is heavy ( it gets heavier when the job requires several pallets worth )

One thing...if your outside walls are sheetrock and you use CBU, make sure you have a factory edge up to your cut sheetrock and leave enough room to tape this and tile just beyond the edge of the cbu outside the tub area..( generally around 2" give or take)
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damn it! i was hoping the loonie would be worth something
thanks, I probably go with the CBU, i have no experience with schluther products.
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i agree it could *end*up* beginning as a long DiY project and become a significant project. think 2x about starting and read this forum's past projects for "what might go very wrong". and for time saver methods (like uses of a curb)

a bathtub was quoted for $350-$1,500 despite the $2000 budget. obviously unless you need drought water storage, you could do just the shower
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my bad, I meant $2 per sf for waterproofing.. my bad typing
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It'd be a shame to tile the surround and not replace the faucet while you have access to it. Moen's are like Toyota's. A Positemp valve and Eva trim will run about $175.

Along with what Todd said- this is the tub that I've been putting in for my customers. It's deeper than a normal old tub. There's a special drain kit to go with it too.
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Nice tub...Lots of bang for the Buck...
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