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Unread 05-04-2018, 08:26 PM   #4561
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They also used slippage clips you can see them laying on the combed thin set.
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Unread 05-07-2018, 06:58 PM   #4562
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If you're going over drywall in a shower then you may as well 5 dot.
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Unread 05-07-2018, 11:24 PM   #4563
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If you're going over drywall in a shower then you may as well 5 dot.
Long as you say so Jim.
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Unread 05-23-2018, 05:25 AM   #4564
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Started this one yesterday. The previous installers had two bites at the apple, and couldn't get it right. Just as well, considering what I found on the tear out. It's okay, though, they siliconed all the seams of the Hardibacker on the walls.

Started with the 8" tall curb. Still don't know why that is. Wading pool, maybe?

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A few screws right at or just above floor level, and the Hardibacker embedded in the poured concrete floor.

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No corners at the curb, just cut and fold. Then more Hardi screwed through the liner.
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I have no idea what this was about, but there were several strips of paper folded and jammed into the corner.

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Ah, now that explains the high curb. Five stacked 2x4's of various cut lengths, some treated, some not.

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And after all that, they put a pre-slope under the liner. Just more work for me to tear out.
At least it wasn't bonded to the slab underneath.

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Unread 05-23-2018, 05:39 AM   #4565
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The guy that installed that shower must really get around. I see his work in my area all the time.
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Unread 05-23-2018, 05:53 AM   #4566
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So odd to see a preslope which is often overlooked, to then biff so much more? How do you know to add a preslope, but then screw through your liner? Going the extra mile to just then screw up the easier parts
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Unread 05-23-2018, 09:21 AM   #4567
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For the same reason he put blocking only on one side, but not the other two.
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Unread 05-23-2018, 12:39 PM   #4568
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Kevin get all the gravy jobs.
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Unread 05-23-2018, 11:24 PM   #4569
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Regarding Kevin’s tear out above – For some reason out here I see Preslopes being made out of plywood. Depending on distance from the drain, you might see a 3/4” board around the perimeter and nothing around the drain. Then they simply screw the plywood down so that it sort of forms a slope to the drain. Nothing underneath the plywood other than around the perimeter, so basically it’s a trampoline. Fairly easy to remove but what the heck?

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Unread 05-24-2018, 06:21 AM   #4570
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There's no telling what you'll find. The other day I tore out a 1 year old Durock shower that had tar paper on the upper half of the jamb, nothing on the lower half. I kept digging and was able to see the imprint of the lath and mud on the paper. The paper was from the first tile job back in the 1950's when it was mudded. The Durock installer left the tar paper on the jamb but didn't add any more on the lower half where it was actually needed.

No preslope, concrete instead of dry pack on the floor, no pan corners, Durock nailed on the curb, no blocking, no moisture barrier. Six strikes, you're out.
The installer told the homeowner that he had installed over 2000 pans and none of them leaked. I told her, yeah, I'm sure this one is his first. To test it, he filled it 3/4 inch of water for 30 minutes.
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Unread 05-24-2018, 10:09 AM   #4571
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Both hate and love $$ seeing these failures. Interestingly, I’m scrolling through this thread while keeping an eye on my son doing one of his first Kerdi systems alone. I’m also answering emails from future clients who are researched enough to know how important a quality install is and who to call. I’m encouraged to think that someday these failures from hack-almost-setters will become a rarity. The internet has been great for this industry and a big part of that is you guys who spend the time on this forum.


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hey boss we're short a tile!

Eh just fill it with grout
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hey boss we're short a tile!

Eh just fill it with grout
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Unread 06-03-2018, 01:17 PM   #4574
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I'm currently tearing out a case study of "what not to do".

Here's one photo. They stuck the tile directly to the shower liner.

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Unread 06-03-2018, 02:21 PM   #4575
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Oh yeah......that'll work! (NOT!)
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