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Unread 09-16-2020, 12:06 PM   #1
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small hexagon tiles, should I use lash level system? picture in post

I don't know what I was thinking buying these small tiles now that I have to install them. Tiles are 4 inches long.

Would you use a tile leveling system to lock each tile together? What should I do to get a level good job on these tiles.

You can see the tiles in the picture below and the lash system. I would need to buy a ton of these clips. Maybe use a combination of some spacers and some clip?

Thanks for any advice!

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Unread 09-16-2020, 02:34 PM   #2
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I like the Lash System....but I think those are too small and too $ for your job. I would think that you can set the tiles and use your hand to get the leveling straight....
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Unread 09-16-2020, 03:45 PM   #3
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Leveling systems are handy, I personally only use them for 3' or larger planks because they can flex the tile slightly and give me a better outcome than I could achieve otherwise.

Good prep on on your substrate will render clips ineffective and they can be a hassle, they make cleaning the joint around them impossible, and will sometimes push the tile in a undesirable plane until you lockdown the other side of the tile. Which makes stopping at the end of the day a hassle because you'll come back to ramped up tile because only one side was clipped.

Like Laz said, use your hand to feel for the lip (if any) and adjust if needed.....But don't skimp on getting your floor flat first. It'll tile like a dream if you spend your time on the prep.
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Unread 09-17-2020, 08:56 PM   #4
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When you say getting the floor flat. If you notice a small square foot section of the ditra mat that looks a big bulged. Would you cut it up and replace that section?

Is it possible to just use a little more thinset, to give you a little room for adjustment in any higher areas?
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Unread 09-17-2020, 09:34 PM   #5
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Yes, cut out the offending section and replace it.

Please do yourownself a large favor and do not try to "make up" for an improper substrate by using extra thinset mortar. You can thank me later.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 09-18-2020, 05:15 PM   #6
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I'm with the others, spend your time getting the floor flat first, it'll make it much easier to install the tiles.
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Unread 09-19-2020, 02:17 PM   #7
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You might try some tile spacers to keep the gaps consistent. But layout lines on your floor are essential.
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Unread 09-29-2020, 11:17 PM   #8
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Hey everyone, need your advice again. I started tiling this floor and it is a horror show. I have some experience tiling, but not these small tiles.

My question is how perfect should these tiles be? I happened to have a drop light on the floor that shined the light across the tiles when the lights were off in the room and saw my tiles were not perfect in many areas. It doesn't look too bad when the room lights are on, but doesn't look great with the drop light shining across, the tiles are not perfectly level with each other.

How concerned should I be? What I did found was once the thinset dries a little I use a long level and push on multiple tiles with that and that helps to level everything a lot better.

Just take a look at the pictures.

OK, it looks OK here when the room lights are on.



Now look at the tiles with the light shining across the tiles with the room lights off. It actually looks much worse in person, you can see many of the tiles on the right side that are not level with each other.
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Unread 09-30-2020, 05:21 AM   #9
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Besides a level, are you using anything else to keep the tiles flat? If it was a job of any size, I might cut a piece of plywood (probably 3/4") with a handle on one side and use it to flatten out the tiles as I go.

If you cut a square that's say, 16" in both directions, move it about 4-6" at a time across the floor and push down a little as you go. Also, you shouldn't be pushing the tile in as you go, but set a few then flatten them out.
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Unread 09-30-2020, 08:43 AM   #10
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just don't turn on the lights .
Honestly, I can't see what you are referring to as unevenness, just one tile or 2, but not a horror show by any means. if you dont stub your toe or shoe, and cant see it in normal use, i would forget it.
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Unread 09-30-2020, 01:07 PM   #11
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I find easiest is to just use a grout float to "press" and adjust the tiles right after setting in thinset...then rub your hand lightly over them to check for lippage.....
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Unread 09-30-2020, 02:31 PM   #12
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Given the leveling systems generally call for them to be used a distance from a corner, I'm not sure how you could actually end up using them on those tiles!

Something flat with a handle on it that you could press down the tile should help get them all in plane. A grout float might be a bit small for the task with those tile.
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I second using a grout float. Low light on the ground will make you look bad. Put the light up where it would be normally. Would have helped to skim the ditra heat the day before install so you don't have edges hanging in a deep spot.
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Unread 10-04-2020, 10:24 PM   #14
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Thanks for the advice, I found best to use a grout float like someone mentioned and straighten a few tiles at a time with that as I go along.

Then when everything is even, I insert the spacers.

I was wondering, does anyone know why these tiles are not placed on a mesh mat with maybe 4-6 tiles at a time? Why are they single tiles like this?


If I paid someone to do this job, would they charge more money to do this job because of the smaller hexagon tiles?
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Unread 10-06-2020, 06:24 PM   #15
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Edward,

You'd have to ask the manufacturer that question.

In general we charge a little more for hex no matter the size because they take a little longer to install. There are 3 axis you have to keep aligned and while we might want to think our tiles are perfectly sized, they aren't. Gridding the floor will help keep the cussing to a minimum.
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