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Unread 06-03-2014, 02:27 PM   #1
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mitreing stone mosaic

Ok this may be crazy but if it has been done someone here has tried it. I have a customer doing a complete shower in flat stone mosaic. Walls, and floor and bathroom floor too. The idea is that it would be like a cave. It's a log cottage that's out in the sticks, even by this regions standards. I know I can easily use Rondec to do the corners of the shower curb and window sill. But has anyone ever mitered these sheets with any success. I will have approximate 19' that will have to mitered in total.
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Unread 06-03-2014, 03:22 PM   #2
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I don't think it would be a good idea..too sharp..that is glass..correct? not fun on bare feet.

rondec might lose the desired effect.

If it is a "cave theme" what are the chances you can mud the corners round and contour the tile..a little too exotic perhaps..

Best idea would be to go curbless me thinks.
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Unread 06-03-2014, 04:00 PM   #3
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It's actually stone that has been honed flat. Curbless might work. Could be opening up a can of ugly as floor is in and not framed for such. Also want me to matchup with plank floor outside the bathroom. but food for thought

Like the idea of rounding out the edges thanks
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Unread 06-03-2014, 04:25 PM   #4
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My two ideas;

1- round the substrate and tile around the curve (samples will tell you the sharpest possible curve)

2- Install it with 254, give it an extra day or three cure time, grout with cement based grout, then grind / polish a radius into the tiles. (test board advisable)
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What Paul said. ^

1&2 , but I would grind them before grouting . It will look more uniform .
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Unread 06-03-2014, 07:05 PM   #6
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I like the idea of rounding off the stone and grouting. will definately mock some up. Ordered quantities were pretty tight on this job so might find something close to and experiment first, like the idea better than the trims--goes against the cave or nature theme to throw metal or plastic in there.
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I would find a matching 12x12 stone and cut them down to 2 or 3 inches wide. Then polish the edges. The mosaics could then be installed to the 2x12 pieces. I'm afraid the stones would be breaking off trying to miter them.

Rolling them over a round surface might work if it's a gradual curve. Looks like some of the points would be sticking up though. Might could do some grinding and polishing to the high points. Experimenting would be best.
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I think Paul's idea is primo, especially if it can be made to look somewhat irregular ... the radius, that is.
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...and if you use Paul's idea, charge accordingly! I agree it would look sweet, but man, what a PITA!
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to wrap or not

Same shower new dilemma. I am leaning towards wrapping all the inside corners of the cut mosaic. I know I would notice if someone paid attention to this extra little detail. But is it lost on most and not worth the effort. I will not get paid extra for doing it so time and money is a bit of a factor. what do you all think?
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Dale,

You ask a bunch of nit-picky, OCD, tile geeks if they'd notice ?
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thx Paul, I was just wondering if I was being overly picky and ocd. Most of the time I get people (including my competitors) saying things like "Really you go through all that extra work for something no one is going to notice."

Doing mock up of curb in next day or two will post for critiques. Think I can get away with a pretty tight radius.
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Most of us regulars would likely notice, but I virtually guarantee your client or any other average Jill or Joe won't.

If you can do it without tons of grief, great, but I wouldn't lose a lot of sleep over it. The stuff's so busy and random anyway...
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You could handle the mitering a couple of different ways. One way is to make a jig for the wet saw. You'll need to make a "sandwich" type jig. I did this for a job I did awhile back and the results varied. I used a 1/4" foam board for the plates to "sandwich" the mosaic as I passed it through the wet saw. The bottom piece will support the mosaic and the top piece helps prevent blowout. The major drawbacks are that all cuts are blind and you'll use up some foam board. The other method would be to resurrect the "Ghost of Guezeman" and simply pre-grout the pieces that you want to miter. That would lock the pieces in place and help prevent blowout. Either way it's a lot of work.
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