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08-04-2022, 11:19 AM
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Would you even start this job? Time is of the essence
So, I went to start a job that had already had the durock laid, but not laid correctly. They laid down the durock side by side, no staggered joints, no mortar underneath it, but with 62 screws in it (but mostly not flush). And it's on a second floor of a residential house. The floor actually even slightly moves when you walk around on it.
The contractor threw a fit when I asked him about the mortar and the staggered joints and said that it was fine he'd been doing it for 35 years.
Should I start this job? Would you?
Obviously time is of the essence. Thank you for your opinions.
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Last edited by Tylermarie; 08-04-2022 at 11:34 AM.
Reason: Typo
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08-04-2022, 01:37 PM
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Moderator emeritus
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Location: Boerne, Texas
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Welcome, Tylermarie.
No.
35 years and still can't read the product manufacturer's installation instructions?
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08-04-2022, 04:00 PM
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King Of Tile
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No
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08-04-2022, 09:25 PM
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No
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Good bye
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08-05-2022, 08:48 AM
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da Man!
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No
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08-05-2022, 10:50 AM
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Moderator -- Wisconsin Kitchen & Bath Remodeler
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Sorry, I’m gonna be snarky…
No way would I touch the job. 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cx
35 years and still can't read the product manufacturer's installation instructions?
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I’d like this question asked while the homeowner is present in the room. Hand them Durock’s tiny instruction sheet and walk out the door talking about how you are available for replacing the failed floor somewhere down the road.
I just have never understood folks that flat out refuse to learn their trade. If nothing else, isn’t it boring to never progress?
Oh, and welcome to the forum, Tylermarie!
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08-05-2022, 03:43 PM
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Nope! Like someone has said on here before, sometimes the best jobs are the ones you don't take.
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08-05-2022, 05:33 PM
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Moderator -- Mud Man
Join Date: Jan 2003
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No way. Move on.
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08-06-2022, 06:05 AM
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Tile Setter
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Location: San Antonio, TX
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No!
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08-06-2022, 11:13 PM
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Not much to gain from that job, but a lot to lose.
When it fails, do you think they'll care that you bonded the tile really well? Nope, they'll only be concerned that the tile that you installed is cracking.
After all, when you tile over it, you endorse the substrate. And it's not like you don't already know.
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08-07-2022, 07:41 AM
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Moderator -- Mud Man
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A couple years ago I went to look at a job that was similar. I tiled this lady's house down the street about ten years earlier. After her divorce, she bought this house and wanted to remodel the whole thing. Her contractor had already installed Hardie on the bath floors upstairs without thinset under it. I told her I'd need to remove the Hardie and install it correctly. She talked to her contractor about it and he told her I didn't know what I was talking about. I told her to go ahead and let him tile it since he's the expert. No, no she said, he doesn't know how to install the tiles, just the Hardie. That's when I informed her that the shower walls would need to come down since I would float them just like I did in her house down the street.
I would have done the job but only with my conditions. After dealing with that little bit, I walked away from it.
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08-08-2022, 12:39 PM
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Tile & Stone
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Nope. The minute you touch it you own it. It's going to fail.
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08-08-2022, 12:57 PM
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Moderator emeritus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylermarie
Obviously time is of the essence.
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But four days later and no further comment? Interesting.
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08-31-2022, 07:20 PM
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Tile and stone contractor Tile setter
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Hell no!!!!!
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