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02-23-2013, 10:47 PM
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need help with off center drain
I have a 6'x6' shower floor to do with the drain in the corner 18" from the wall should i make the pan level on all four walls and have a steep slope on the two walls with the drain, any suggestions thanks
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02-23-2013, 11:05 PM
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1/4" per foot drop is what you should aim for. Max drop should be 1/2" per foot.
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02-23-2013, 11:08 PM
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It's always great to have your pan level all around, but in that application, I definitely wouldn't. Using the 1/4 inch per ft standard, you would have about a 3/4 inch per ft slope in the corner by the drain. To me that's way too much, and I would prefer my bottom course of wall tile grow larger as it nears the drain to keep the floor slope more consistent.
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02-24-2013, 08:21 AM
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We don't do it very often but in this case I would run the perimeter out of level like George said. When it comes to tiling the walls, you'll want to put up a ledger board and start tiling on the second row, then come back and cut in the bottom row.
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02-24-2013, 09:02 AM
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Thanks for the input guys ill give it a shot and see how it goes
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02-24-2013, 09:09 AM
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It would kinda depend on what was going on the wall to me. If it's large format tile I might make the pan walls out of level. If it was mosaics I would level it. I don't think 3/4" is too much and I think the slope would look better than out of level walls. The floor tile would influence a bit too. It would be far easier to lay heavily sloped floor with 1 or 2" tile or tumbled 4" stone. Square edged or larger tile would be out.
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02-24-2013, 09:21 AM
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I agree with Jerry but I'll add another factor - the location of the shower head. If you aren't standing in that steep area, then make the perimeter level.
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02-24-2013, 09:28 AM
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Why not center the drain? You could also move it even closer to the wall and install a linear drain.
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02-24-2013, 09:30 AM
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We suggested moving it but the home owner doesnt want to pay to have it moved its in a basement on slab,
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02-24-2013, 09:35 AM
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Shower head is in center on the right wall so you wont be standing over the drain, thats a good idea Paul, save myself alot of headache if i make the pan level and just work with the bigger slop in the corner with floor tile, customer ordered 2x2 for the floor so shouldnt be a problem
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02-24-2013, 11:06 AM
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If the perimeter is level , I think the 2'' x 2'' can't handle the minimum 1/4 per foot -- 1 1/8'' drop from wall to drain on 16'' . I would go with an off level around perimeter , gradually droping it from the farthest point to the drain .
If level perimeter is needed , sloping % should decrease .
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02-24-2013, 11:23 AM
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Hugging Trees Oct. 1st
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The customer don't want to pay to move the drain, he wants you to pay to move the drain.
How? Your paying right now by researching how to deal with way off center drain and any method or solution we come up with will involve more work for you.
Tell them sorry next time and don't fiddle fattle around about the need to move the drain.
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