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Unread 09-18-2022, 06:50 PM   #1
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Tile Outside Corner

Hi, i've done a few DIY tile projects, like my tile backsplash.

We are tiling our small fireplace. I had planned on miter cutting these.

THe tile we picked doesn't have a matching trim or bullnose, its a small format tile on a mesh back.

how would a professional tile this three edge corner?

I'm stumped.

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Unread 09-18-2022, 07:00 PM   #2
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Welcome back, Brandon.

I dunno how a "professional" might do it, but I'd simply back-bevel a side and an end on each of those tiles leave a grout joint between them. Same as what you're calling "miter cutting," I believe.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 09-18-2022, 07:34 PM   #3
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I'm not a pro, but I would use an edge profile with the appropriate outside corner connector. Schluter makes two profiles that come to mind that would work there and they come in a rainbow of finishes. (Rondec and Quadec) The pic attached I used Rondec in Brushed Nickel.
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What CX said. And another option would be to use a metal profile strip with outside corner block pieces.

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Unread 09-18-2022, 08:15 PM   #5
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Thank you very much, both great solutions

And yes, by miter I meant back bevel, to cut the edges at a 45 and joining them together with a grout joint

Visually i could imagine doing a standard two plane outside corner, but the three plane outside corner was hard for me to picture in my mind if that would work

I've seen youtube channels with people back beveling with a wet saw set to a 45 degree angle and pushing thru at the very edge, behind the face, or using an angle grinder to remove the backside at at a 45.

Any preferences on that?

The Schulter method seems so much easier because I could see cutting all the miter edges could be tedious since it is labor intensive

I assume I could get the Schulter in a glossy white that closely matches my glossy white, very standard subway tile....?

Is there a preference to using aluminum vs PVC?

That photo you posted John is perfect, exactly what I was trying to visualize in my head.

As another dumb question, when doing this, it would seem to me that I want install this corner edging first, then tile, correct?
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Unread 09-18-2022, 08:24 PM   #6
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Cutting the back bevels, or miters, is not at all difficult if you've got the right saw and make a simple jig, Brandon. You want the cuts to end up looking like the photo below. You don't want to cut to a sharp edge at the bevel, you want leave a bit of "meat" there.

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Unread 09-18-2022, 08:40 PM   #7
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Thank you!

I will practice on some leftover tile from our backsplash and will post photos when I'm done
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Unread 09-18-2022, 08:45 PM   #8
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And to add even more choices, Schluter makes a profile (Finec) that works with back-beveled tiles, for those who prefer a more subdued, edge profile.

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The Schulter method seems so much easier because I could see cutting all the miter edges could be tedious since it is labor intensive
I would not say going with a profile is less work or easier. Getting the profiles right is a lot harder in the real world application than the sterile-environment videos Schluter makes - same for all of their products I would say.

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As another dumb question, when doing this, it would seem to me that I want install this corner edging first, then tile, correct?
You can. Or you can install one plane of tile with the profile. Difficult to do that corner you show all at once. IF everything was flat, plumb and square, sure. I find one plane of tile with the profile works best.

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I assume I could get the Schulter in a glossy white that closely matches my glossy white, very standard subway tile....?
Yes, in PVC and aluminum. I've only used aluminum.

If you decide to go the profile route, hit me up I have more photos of different installs and can explain my decisions.

Oh, and just know back-beveling is much less expensive but you have no edge protection if it's a high-traffic area. Your decision, either way, folks here will walk you through it.

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A metal profile is by far the simplest way of handling that.
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Unread 09-20-2022, 06:54 AM   #10
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Given how exposed those corners are I wonder if using a metal profile might actually be more durable than a mitered tile corner.
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Given how exposed those corners are I wonder if using a metal profile might actually be more durable than a mitered tile corner.
I agree. And since I have a really crappy tile saw (upgrading with cash from current side job) I can't imagine getting those bevels perfect. Maybe with a new saw I can
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Thought the same thing about getting them straight, John. Though my low budget saw will cut at 90* inexplicably straight it absolutely will not do so when mitering.
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Here is the finished product.

I went the miter route. It came out ok.

It was very tedious. I actually used my Milwaukee 4.5 angle grinder with a Casagrande tile blade. What I did was actually use the face of the blade to sand/grind the backside down. The cheap chinese blade didn't explode in my face, so that's a bonus.

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It took a bit of practice and was time consuming. I worked a few hours at a time, busy with my full time job, my kids etc.. I watched a few youtube videos of this technique and it was much easier for a novice DIY guy to grind/sand than actually cut and run the angle grinder along it in a traditional cutting method. I borrowed a pretty good sized wet saw from a friend but cutting each small tile at a 45 seemed to be a hassle. I used the wetsaw for straight cuts.

I have not caulked the miter joints yet. I bought the tile at the Tile Shoppe. They also sold me their grout, Superior Excel or something like that, in Charcoal. It was $70 for a 25lb bag. It sucked. Very sandy and difficult for me to apply. I am going to use a sanded, silicone grout to do the miter corners.

Almost done with the new mantle as well. Used pine, distressed with a wirecup wheel on the same angle grinder, going to stain to match floor.
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Here are my photos. THanks for all the help and advice. i'm pretty happy with it, although my back hurts.

time for a beer.
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Nicely done, Brandon.
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