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Old 01-11-2018, 03:39 PM   #1
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Old wood window (with wood frame) inside tub/shower redo

I have an old wood window inside a tub in my late 1930s house. We are converting the tub into a tub/shower. The window will then need protection from water. I was thinking of installing some sort of glass cover with hinges (a mini "glass shower door" setup) to protect the window. But given that the area is being gutted to studs, I'd like to explore other options. The siding is brick.

Should I completely remove the window and install a vinyl window? If so, how should I waterproof the window frame and the siding where the new window will be installed?

Is keeping the wood window and just changing the trim and sill to cellular PVC (like Azek) an option? Or does the wood window have to go entirely?

More generally, what is the best way to deal with this situation?


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No law that says you can't leave it, but I wouldn't. For a client or myself. The problem is that if water gets on the frame, it's going to find its way past it to interior of wall. Bad, bad, bad. Curtain would be easy way, but kinda hokey in my mind. Couldn't live with it.

I'm assuming brick veneer on wood frame rather than actual brick wall. They make vinyl windows (and aluminum) that mimic the look of old double hungs so it doesn't have to be ugly or even weird. I figured out a way to get it right on a job that never materialized. It would require some good carpentry skills because window jamb is made to opening size in brick. It also has tile running right up to glass, which I've done several of and prefer to vinyl frame, but it's not an off-the-shelf solution.

I'll attach a couple of jpegs of detail I drew. This site will limit the size of attachment so it gets a little hard to read. I could email same to you if you're going to pursue.
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:34 AM   #3
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Thanks for the pics, Peter.

I am on the fence about installing a vinyl window. I am planning to change all windows in the house in a few years, when I have the funds -- wood interior, aluminum clad exterior, still undecided about insert windows or full replacement windows. I am concerned that, if I change this one window now, it might not match with future windows.

How about I keep the old wood window, but remove the interior trim, waterproof the heck out of the existing framing, install Azek interior trim (minus sill). and then put vinyl plantation shutters that fully cover the Azek trim? I am thinking of shutter because I also need privacy, and we don't like the idea of glass block and don't love frosted glass.

In the future, if I want to change this window for a full replacement window, I would just remove the Azek trim, remove the framing, and install new window. For that, I would need to tile only up to the interior trim and stop there, so that I can remove the framing in the future if needed. (I know many people prefer to tile up to the window, but I don't mind having an Azek trim -- unless there is a reason to tile up to the window beyond aesthetics.
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When I had my windows replaced, I chose fiberglass ones...smooth, surface on the outside that does not need painting, and on the inside, you had the choice of a wood look (stain any color you want), or the same solid color smooth surface as the outside. Vinyl expands and contracts a lot. The fiberglass frames and sashes expand and contract at almost exactly the same rate as the glass glazing, which puts less stress on the whole thing. And, they're a lot stronger. More than a few companies make these, and I consider them superior to vinyl.
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