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Unread 01-22-2010, 04:55 PM   #1
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Hi , I'm a new user to the forum, so I hope this thread is in the right place. I have a question pertaining to making the best use of my time. I ordered a tile ready shower pan and it wont be delivered for at least a week. My question is would it be alright to begin tiling my floor and walls ( outside of the shower area) , working towards where my pan will be, and leave enough space to tie it in? If so, is there a time limit on how long the tile can set before grouting ? Thank you , Jay Ty
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Unread 01-22-2010, 05:39 PM   #2
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Welcome Jay,

Technically you never HAVE to grout your tiles. There is no time limit. There are time minimums, but I don't think that's your problem. Take a week, a month. Just make sure to keep the floor as clean as possible, and to vacuum the daylights out of it before grouting.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 07:40 PM   #3
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Thanks Paul.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 08:07 PM   #4
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is there a time limit on how long the tile can set before grouting ?
Paul is right, but you want to make sure you dont get dirt , hair, dust and other stuff in your joints before you grout. always best to vacuum it up after a long period of not having it grouted.
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Unread 01-22-2010, 09:01 PM   #5
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You can set a ledger board around a tile width high off the pan and then tile your walls....then you can tie the pan in. Why the tile redi pan anyway? Why not build your own?
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Unread 01-23-2010, 04:24 AM   #6
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Thanks to every one for the advice. I thought about attempting to pour the pan but I must admit that I was a little intimidated by it. I read over the process a few times. Apparently, who ever poured mine when my house was new (1974) did not do it right. I haven't used that shower for years and when I pulled up the mosaic tile, it was very moist. There was nothing under the pan liner except for the slab sub floor.
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IF you go the ledger board route, make sure you leave enough room to get the pan into the shower area in case it has to go is at an angle. Hammy
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Unread 01-24-2010, 01:08 AM   #8
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Shower pan

I decided to cancel the redi tile pan tile order because it required a flash kit that wasnt included with my purchase. They wouldn't allow me to add it to my original order.I have been reading all of the advice on building pans but I have a few questions to ask just so I can be sure to do the best job possible. If Im coming off of a slab floor, is it necessary to use felt paper ? will the morter thats under the pan liner not have any negative effects on my floor plate wood ? How much working time do I have with the morter ?When I build the curb, do I take it stud to stud ?By that i mean, all the way across from one stud wall to the opposite stud wall ? I would like for my cement board to be even with my drywall so I plan to notch the studs as recommended.Do I only need to notch the corner studs where the folds will be ? Hope I didn't ask too many questions.
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Tar paper & lath is only used over wood floors. Over concrete you bond the preslope to the slab using loose thinset or wet the slab and sprinkle pure portland down before the deckmud. Caution: pure portland dries very quick. The second you make your slurry, cover it with deckmud immediately. Or just use thinset.
The preslope mud isn't wet enough, long enough to really mess with your studs. I still like to use sill seal around the perimeter for expansion though.
30 minutes I beleive? Make smaller batches if you think you'll be going a little slow.
Build the curb the entire length of the opening.
Notch the corner studs around a 1/4" deep. An 1/8" deep on the other studs is a good thing.
Curbs built out of bricks over concrete are better than using 2x4's. But sill seal under 2x4's is also ok. No pressure treated wood anywhere.
Don't forget to dollop a little thinset on the back of your CBU at the bottom in the notch area to hold the board straight. No nails below the top of the panliner! The deckmud (and thinset behind the board) will hold the board where it needs to be.
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Jay, why not look into using KERDI for your shower, Much easier than building a double mud bed, using a rubber liner, and sealing the drain in my opinion. Hammy
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Oh, one other thing, my shower floor is 34 by 48. Does kerdi offer that ?
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Yup KERDI will work for you. Go to their website and watch / download the video. Hammy

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inside corners cove tile ?

Been reading the post on floor to wall transitions. Interesting. One thing that has me stumped is inside corners where my bathroom wall meets the outside of my shower curb. How do you go about joining the coves at inside corners ? not sure if these are cove or shoe ? Thanks in advance, ...Jay (warvette)
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Hi Jay, either inside 45 them or cope them like you would do wood trim.
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I normally nip/cut one of the cove pieces to fit the profile of the other. I don't think I have a pic of this. Maybe someone else does.

Yep, what Mike said.
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