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Unread 06-21-2014, 08:17 AM   #1
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Upcoming Tile Project

I plan to tile my new house prior to moving in. This is basically first time tiling and have about 5 days to tile as much as I can.

The bulkd of this work will be by myself for the tiling.

Size
About 1800 sq ft that needs to be done. If needed, two rooms can be left to do at a later date, reducing the total to about 1400 sq feet. Also, the foyer and kitchen are tiled and can be left for a later date as well. This would like bring down the total to about 1000 that would absolutely need to be done.

House
Built in the early 80s
Mostly Carpet throughout with tile in a kitchen, foyer and bathrooms.
concrete slab

Current Flooring
Carpet and Tile
Carpet did lift off pretty easily
The floor underneath is a bit dirty with maybe mold/mildex of stuff from the underlayment.
Concrete underneath

Tile to install
Still searching
For ease of install I'm looking for a 12X12 in a medium gray. If I can find a tile that can support a thin grout line I will be happy. Ideal is 1/8 or smaller but 3/16 would work.
I do like the look of the 6 X 24 planks but it seems the install and floor needs to have a lot more preparation.
I also like 18 X 18 but I read the floor needs to be very flat here too.

Tools/Material that I know of
1. Tile
2. Thin set
3. Grout/Expoxy
4. Tile Cutter
5. Self leveling cement
6. Knee pads
7. LASH clips
8. Square Notch Trowel
9. 5 gallon bucket
10. Grout Sponge
11. Level
12. Large beam for leveling
13. Mechanical Tile Scrapper
14. Osciallating Saw to cut under door frames

Budget
3000 - but have the funds to go higher to 5k. Just don't believe in spending it just cause I have it.

Immediate needs
1. What tile to pick? So we can choose paint for the house, materials for the install, etc.

Needs
1. Great articles, videos, etc on how to basically do everything needed for this install.
2. Recommendations with links and/or part numbers for tools
3. How crazy is the amount of tiling I want to do in the short period of time.
4. How to clean floors where the old carpet is.

I need three posts before I can post pictures. I had the floor plans and some pics of the carpet to help out.

Goals for the project - Start date is 6/27 and end is 7/4 (est 3 days for painting as well)
1. Aesthically pleasing install
2. Low maintenance flooring
3. As much slip resistance as reasonably possible in a tile.
4. Gain some DIY experience so I can do bathroom and back patio in the future.
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Unread 06-21-2014, 08:28 AM   #2
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By yourself? 1000 sqft in 5 days seems like a stretch especially if this is your first time - is it big open rooms or weird cuts in some areas?

I usually give my pro tile setters a budget of about 150 to 200/sqft a day, and thats with an assistant in a residential scenario NOT including demo (which it seems you have) tile setting isn't the easiest on your back so rest is key. Also if you plan to use an SLC then add at least another day of wait time for it to set.

Do you have tile bonded to concrete somewhere? That's going to be another problem as well, thats tough to remove.

Honestly, I think you might be getting ahead of yourself, or give yourself more time to get this done.

If you have a Multimaster tool of some sorts that will help with cutting door frames.
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Unread 06-21-2014, 08:51 AM   #3
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Just curious how much would this tile install cost?
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Unread 06-21-2014, 09:09 AM   #4
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Welcome, Eddie.

We have no idea, especially since you've not added a geographic location to your User Profile and the cost of such work varies dramatically by region and even by locale.

Only way to determine what it would cost is to get a couple estimates from local tile contractors. Might convince you that you want to contract it out or might convince you to do it yourself.

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Unread 06-21-2014, 09:33 AM   #5
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CX,

I updated my location to Orlando, FL. I'm going to guess at least 3K for this job.

After talking to my wife we are going to dedicated 8 days to laying down the tile now, and painting will go to the back burner, especially since we don't have much furniture to move around, and can get help for painting later on.

Attached is the floor plan.

Immediate needs
1. Foyer
2. Family room
3. Kitchen
4. Living Room
5. Dining Room
6. Hallway
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Unread 06-21-2014, 05:46 PM   #6
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With that layout, and not being a skilled, experienced installer, I'd say you'll average more like 50 - 60 SF per day if things are in your favor.

If there is a serious amount of floor prep, furniture moving, kids, pets, phone ringing, and stopping for meals, you might average 30-40 sf per day.

Do you have door trims to undercut ? Baseboards to consider ?

Just my 2¢
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Unread 06-21-2014, 06:45 PM   #7
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The house is luckily unoccupied. I have checked under the carpets and it doesn't look bad, but I have no idea how unlevel it will be.

I plan on removing all the base boards to make the painting and tile install easier and install them at a later date.

I plan on undercutting door frames to avoid fancy tile cuts.
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We have the tile picked out and we plan on doing this in the common areas. I will do what I can with the time I have available.

http://www.flooranddecor.com/moritz-...in-x-24in.html

With a tile this long I need to get the concrete flooring very level. Any good resources for prepping the floor out there? Carpet is being removed.
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Unread 06-24-2014, 12:04 PM   #9
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Eddie, your tiles don't give a rat's patooti whether your floor is level, but if they're large they want your floor should be very, very flat. Flattening the concrete is generally a combination of grinding down the high areas and filling the low areas. Just how you accomplish that on your floor will depend somewhat on what you have to start with.

The object is to have the industry recommended flatness of no deviation from intended plane of more than 1/8th" in ten feet nor 1/16th" in two feet. That is a very flat floor and you'll be glad to have it when you begin to set those tiles.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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CX,

Thanks for the reply.

Is something like this recommended,72 in Level?

I'm ok renting some fancy tool as long as it can save me time and ensure flatness.
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Unread 06-24-2014, 03:36 PM   #11
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Naaa, too short.

You don't need a level, you need a straight-edge. If you wanna measure level you can pewt your shorter level on top of the straight-edge.

Optimally, you'd want a straight-edge ten feet long or better, or whatever will fit in the room you're working on. That six-foot level might be somewhat helpful initially in your flattening, so long as it's actually very straight. I'd worry about a six-foot level that cost only twenty bucks, though.

Longer your straight-edge, flatter you're fixin' to be able to get your floor.

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I've been looking up the pattern for the install, and found this site... http://www.interceramicusa.com/TileP...bsection=plank

What is the simplest to DIY or to contract out?
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Eddie,

That depends on how OCD you are, and how little you argue with your helper (who will be the one focusing in the pattern while you focus on the tile setting)

If your hiring it out, you want a craftsman / artist, not someone who will slap the stuff down for a few bucks a foot.

If none of the areas to be tiled are over 25 feet in one direction, the pattern doesn't matter. If you are installing expansion joints in the field, pattern may matter a whole lot
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Ok, This weekend is going to be floor prepping time!

This is the plan
1. Remove wall divider in living room
2. Remove baseboards
3. Remove old carpet
4. Remove old tile in kitchen and foyer
5. Clean Concrete of adhesives, etc.
6. Apply self-leveling cement if needed.

Tools
1. 4 in. razor for adhesives
2. Cutters for carpet
3. Pry bar for staples
4. Razor blade for adhesive on concrete.

If there are any power tools that I can use instead I'm all for saving time.
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An electric chipping hammer will make the tile removal much easier. Also works well for removing the carpet tack strips. Have plenty of scraper blades on hand.
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