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Unread 09-01-2021, 09:50 AM   #16
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Thanks CX.
What do you mean by "leak at the surround"? What is the surround and how can that be repaired?
Attaching another photo just so you guys can get the "full picture".

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Unread 09-01-2021, 10:18 AM   #17
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The area in your red circle, most likely, Danny.
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Unread 09-01-2021, 12:41 PM   #18
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If it's coming from the surround, I would be able to see the water during / after showering right?
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Unread 09-01-2021, 01:27 PM   #19
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Unread 09-01-2021, 02:54 PM   #20
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CX - the contractor is going to come out tomorrow with the builder rep that hired them and will probably try to put up a facade on how the shower was done correctly and this is a minor issue that is unrelated to their work...
Obviously that's all BS and the swollen wood speaks for itself, but is there anything else I should know to be better prepared for this "meeting"?
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...the shower was done correctly and this is a minor issue that is unrelated to their work...
Very likely response. But the bottom line is that no water should ever exit a properly constructed and waterproofed shower except through the same opening used by the owner for entry and exit. None. Ever.

Unless there is a plumbing leak not associated with their work, or a roof leak above the shower, that wall shouldn't be getting wet. Could be as simple as a poor install of the glass surround or as difficult to cure as an improperly waterproofed wall/receptor system.

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Unread 09-08-2021, 05:22 PM   #22
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Hey folks,

If you're interested, I had a tile inspector come out. Basically, the slope is incorrect, but also the weep holes were plugged and no dry pack was used, so the shower must be rebuilt. sigh.

Look out another post from me begging for a Schluter tile installer in Orange County, because I sure as hell am not doing that hot mopping again.
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Danny, you can keep us posted here on this thread. Keep in mind, there are many installation procedures and they all can fail if not done correctly.
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Thanks Davy.
Yes I think I've learned more than I wanted to about all the failure points during a shower install, lol.

Reason I want to avoid the hot mop is because it has a nasty smell that lingered for weeks. For the first few days we couldn't even sleep in our master bedroom, and even then we had to keep all the windows opened.
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Yep, I lived in Anaheim back in the late 80's. I'm familiar with the hot mop odor, stinks up the whole neighborhood. Sorry to hear about your shower problems.
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And the saga continues...
Demo started today. Builder rep wanted to prove to me how the tile inspector I hired was wrong and the weep holes weren't plugged.
Here's the video.

What do you guys think? Frankly I don't think it matters all that much, I'm mostly just curious at this point.
I told the builder that at the end of the day the shower was leaking and it should never leak, period.
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Well, once the shower floor was torn out to the level in your video, Danny, the weep holes may well no longer be plugged. Still could have been before.

And I agree about it not mattering at all at this point. I don't think it had anything to do with your leak, anyway.

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CX, so you also don't think it was the weep holes?
Just curious, what are some other "options" to why it was leaking?
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I can think of no way the clogged weep holes would cause the shower to leak as you indicated. The clogged weep holes can certainly cause the top mud bed to remain wet and there could feasibly be some wicking up the mortar walls, but I don't see it causing the damage you had and certainly not without your seeing water pooling around the drain area.

But I been wrong before.

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Thanks. Last question, I hope. Would you recommend a plumber come in and replace the drain after demo? I'm just thinking what are the odds it wasn't damaged during demo?
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