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Unread 07-25-2005, 04:06 PM   #1
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Tile layout for small master bath/doorway

I’m planning to tile my master bathroom. This is my third tiling project, all relatively small ones. Your site has been very helpful in answering many of the questions I had, but one on layout still remains.

I’m waiting to buy the tile until I know I’m buying the right size. I plan to buy 12 inch tiles, but am unsure if the layout will look o.k. with such a small bathroom. I have two doors I have to plan around, though I think only one of them is important, B in the attachment, if I uploaded it correctly..

My question. If I center the tile through doorway B, I end up with about 5 1/2 inch cut tiles on each side of the long rectangular vanity area. If I butt the tile up to the wall along the ‘doorway c’ wall, I have almost 4 whole tiles across, since the area is 48 inches across, but the tile through door B will be off center. Which alternative do you recommend? Or do you recommend buying a smaller tile?
Also, the same question in the other direction. Should the whole tile be at A which butts up against carpet, or up by doorway B with a cut tile by the carpet?

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Unread 07-25-2005, 04:18 PM   #2
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Welcome, Denise
Stay with the 12" tiles. They will look fine in a small bathroom. As far as the layout is concerned, there are no rules. Only what looks right. You've already toyed with the layout a little so I won't suggest centering this in both directions as a starting point. Most of us identify the focal point, or most visible area in the room and make that area look the best with full tiles, or close to full tiles.....considering as much else as they can. Up against a tub is a good focal point to concern yourself with....the longest wall is also another good point to start with.......the most visible entryway is another. The point is, YOU have to be the judge of this and your eye will tell you what's most important. If you are really unsure, you can layout the lines with some thin blue painter's tape to simulate the layout and see for yourself how it all looks. Or you could post a picture here and lots more people will throw their advice into the bucket.

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Unread 07-25-2005, 04:22 PM   #3
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In my opinion if there is hall leading to the bath, center it. If it's a simple 40 footer start full on the longest wall. And it really don't matter whats behind the toilet, well speaking of tile now
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Unread 07-25-2005, 04:50 PM   #4
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Adding attachment problem

I attached a jpg file following the FAQ directions and the 'Additional Options' at the bottom of the posting page shows it's there, but it doesn't appear in the body of the post. What am I doing wrong?
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Unread 07-25-2005, 04:53 PM   #5
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Never mind

Never mind, It showed up this time.
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Unread 07-25-2005, 04:58 PM   #6
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Hi Denise, I would start full at the door (A) and full on the closet wall (C).
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Unread 07-26-2005, 07:00 PM   #7
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Crack in concrete slab

After your advice, I decided to go with the 12 inch tile and started the prep work. When I removed the carpet and pad, I found a crack running the width of the area I want to tile (through door C in the diagram above.) After reading though some posts, especially one from cmc, I think I have a vertical crack. (Hy house is in Scottsdale built in '79.) Each side is level on their own side of the crack, but when I straddle the level over the crack, there's a gap, probably about 1/4". From your earlier posts with cmc, I know you recommended staying away from tile. Since I just tore up perfectly good carpet because I don't want carpet in my bathroom, I wondered if using smaller tile is an acceptable alternative. While the crack isn't straight, I thought maybe it was straight enough to lay the tile so it doesn't straddle the crack as much as possible. I've included pictures of the crack as you had requested of cmc, if that helps. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I've either misdiagnosed the problem or there's an easy fix! Thanks.

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Unread 07-26-2005, 07:03 PM   #8
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Hi Denise, you can use a crack treatment. It comes onna roll and is about 12" wide. You should be able to find this at a tile shop.
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Unread 07-27-2005, 07:54 AM   #9
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for your tile layout - did you consider doing them on the diagonal? we did ours that way and it really expands the space visually. Also, you won't have obvious "lines" running parallel to the doorways or walls. there might be a little more waste, but we are really pleased with the results. We dry fit everything first and adjusted the center accordingly. you'll have to play with your layout, but we used full diagonal 1/2s along the vanity and then had some cuts along our wall. I would try to center the mid point of the diagonal on door A and run the diagonal right through door b into the WC area. good luck! diane
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Unread 08-31-2005, 09:48 PM   #10
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Project complete

Thanks for all your help with my tile project. It's complete except for installing the toilet, since I need a flange repair first. I took Diane's suggestion and laid the tile on the diagonal. Even though there was extra cutting involved, I'm happy with the result.

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Awesome!
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Unread 09-01-2005, 03:49 PM   #12
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It looks fantastic. Congratulations.
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Feels good getting it done, don't it? Looks great.
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Unread 11-07-2005, 06:56 PM   #14
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Toilet flange ques. #403

I’m sure you guys are sick of toilet flange questions, but in looking back through the boards I found two different answers to my question. My question is about cutting the tile around the toilet flange. One answer said that the tile should be cut in a circle so the flange sits on top of the tile. The other said that as long as there is enough tile laid for the toilet to rest steady and accommodate a toilet base that is enough.

The picture below shows the footprint of the toilet which would be completely supported by tile. (You’ll note that the tiles around the flange are just laid in place while the rest of the project is done. I made a newbie mistake and cut the tiles wrong and had to remove them after I had already finished grouting.) Because part of the outer ring of the flange has rusted away I’m planning to install a SuperRing on top of the original flange. There will be screws drilled through the SuperRing into the concrete that would prevent the tile from being totally under the flange, one of the reasons why I cut the tile the way it is and not in a circle.

Before I install the tiles, SuperRing, and toilet I wanted to find out if cutting the tiles this way is acceptable, and if not, what I should do. As always, thanks for your help.

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Unread 11-07-2005, 07:04 PM   #15
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Hi Denise,

A little creative cutting there, but that will work.
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