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Unread 03-12-2002, 04:32 PM   #1
Bud Cline
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OK guys,

This fancy house I'm specing has an alcove in the kitchen. This alcove is ten feet wide, thirty-six inches deep, and has an arching ceiling with a small fir-down at the front lip. The arch centers at about eight feet AFF.

There is to be a small exhaust hood at the ceiling. The alcove will house the eight burner commercial rangetop, two ovens, and a Genair.

I am using 1/2" cement board on the studs and ceramic tile on that.

Is there a heat issue in this case? The exhaust hood will draw from the open room and obviously there is plenty of free-air.

I remember a similar situation years ago when doing some Denny's Restaurant kitchens. The thinset had to be rated to 400 degrees. Upon inquiring with two tech's, (Laticrete and TEC) they were not aware of any such requirement.

I doubt the ceiling temperature could ever go past 200 degrees with the hood and air movement but that is simply a guess on my part.

What do you think.
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Unread 03-12-2002, 05:32 PM   #2
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I don't think it's an issue. I've tiled several of those alcoves right on the sheetrock behind the range.

I am hardly ever envious of others, but man, wouldn't you like to have one of those big commercial ranges in your kitchen on a Sunday morning?
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Unread 03-12-2002, 07:29 PM   #3
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I've done a couple of those too, Bud. Not as large on the cooking devices, but I'd still not worry about it. I, too, have tiled the full back splash directly on sheetrock. Real rock over the arch on one. Only small, standard vent hood on that one as I recall.

One suggestion I would make is to put an in-duct exhaust fan in the attic space, if available. You can get a whole lot more "suck" with almost no noise. Not expensive, either.
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Unread 03-13-2002, 05:17 AM   #4
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I don't see any issues related to thinset. I would be backbuttering to avoid differential expansion/shrinkage in the tile.
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Unread 03-13-2002, 07:56 AM   #5
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OH GREAT!!!

4 X 8's, running bond, arch (bordered), 1-1/2" lip above arch at the top inside, to ten feet off the floor, cutouts for light fixtures and outlets and vent hood, arched recesses on back wall for spice shelves and k-nick k-nacks........

...and now we're going to backbutter each tile?

I'm not real sure THAT'S going to happen Dave! Thanks though, I was thinkin'about comin' to get ya.

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Uh Dave,

I didn't back-butter. I've lost some more points, right?
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Unread 03-13-2002, 11:11 PM   #7
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whats back-butter?
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Unread 03-13-2002, 11:40 PM   #8
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It's a generic term for Coppertone
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JC,

Back-buttering means trowling thin set on the backs of tiles, either to build them up a little or to install them in certain cases. Saltillo tiles take a lot of back-buttering to fill the voids under them because they are warped.
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I'm warped, do I need back buttering?
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Check with Kathleen on that one, amigo. I'm sure she's familiar with your affliction by now.
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Unread 03-15-2002, 07:18 AM   #13
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