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Unread 09-15-2006, 10:06 PM   #1
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Tricks of the Trade

I am well aware this is a highly guarded subject by most and feared not
by some. Id like to start off by sharing a little diddy. Today i finished up
the edges on my travertine tub surround ive been working on with bullnosed
edges. Usually i will stop any custom liners i have cut on the saw short
and border them with some kind of straight edge from the field tile. Today
i decided to run my design band right to the edge and bull nose the 1"
top and bottom pieces as well as the 2&7/8" diamonds and diagonal halves.
Luckily i had some knife grade epoxy on my truck and some fiber glass joint
tape. Carefully i fit the pieces one by one onto the wall and taped them
in place with blue tape, next to the existing tile i had set the day before.
After figuring the exact position of the tiles on the wall by taping them
in place one by one i gently removed them, still taped together and headed
for my setup outside. Still taped together i flipped over the liner and laid some
fiberglass joint tape across the backsides of the tiles. I then skim coated
the back with epoxy, to bond them together. I then proceeded to bullnose
the small pieces as one solid band. Ill upload a pic of the liner on the wall
tomorrow.
Share your tricks and others will too
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Unread 09-15-2006, 10:15 PM   #2
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That looks really really good! Since you are sharing, what do you use to do your bullnosing? What is your process? The company I work for doesn't really offer it and we have people ask for it. If we ever have to do it we send it out. I would like to do it though.

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Unread 09-15-2006, 10:30 PM   #3
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Good question Bryan. Theres alot of different ways to bullnose.
Me,... I use an easy edge router. It fits on my makita grinder. The
easy edge makes the initial profile. For travertine i create the profile
with the easy edge and then sand out imperfections with a block of
wood with a rough grit sand paper stapled to it. I move to a 400 grit
granite dry pad and then go back to another block of wood with
a fine sand paper. This has been working for me to get the honed
finish. sometimes i will finish up with a swipe of sulfamic acid but lately
ive just been using 511 enhance and seal to bring the color out.
With honed stones its easy to shine them up to much. I guess i could
use a lesson here myself Its been working for me so until i get
better advice its the best i can do.
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Unread 09-15-2006, 10:42 PM   #4
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Well it looks really good. I will have to give that a try and see what it looks like. It is similar to what I have tried but yours looks much better. I don't have an easy edge and that might be the difference. I try to do it with a lot of elbow grease. I had to do a bathroom counter top a while back and I spent darn near half a day getting it to look good.

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Jack,

Who makes this easy edge attachment? Tks, Pat
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Unread 09-16-2006, 05:23 AM   #6
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Nice Job Jack.(and a great tip!!)
Felker makes a Bullnosing diamond blade folks. It will give the same profile rough in that jacks getting with his grinder. (another reason to own more than 1 saw) Keep a profiling blade on 1 of your saws and leave it set up in the garage at home. rarely you may want to bring it to the job site but a little planning and forthought and you can just bring home the pieces you will need profiled and polished.

Set up a carpeted board to clamp your tile to along a workbench edge so that you can sand & polish several feet at a time after rough in.

Remember, travertine is a soft stone and pretty easy to profile as is slate and marble.............granite on the other hand takes a bit of doing(ok more than a bit)
I will profile some stone but send out granite!!
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Wow Jack! That is insane looking.
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Nice edge Jack. I'm good at stopping the liner short and slapping up a piece of field tile too. That looks much better though.

On granite and hard marble I like using the 5 inch grinding wheels to get the majority of the bullnosing done. I have a long piece of Corian that I use to line up 7 or 8 at one time. I follow up with stick on sandpaper of 4 grits on polished marble, maybe 1 or 2 grits for honed. Of course I use the diamond pads for granite.
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Excellent work jack, I always say it's details like that, that really make a job
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Here is the liner installed, I know you guys got some good tricks too
so lets hear em eh?
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Unread 09-16-2006, 03:37 PM   #11
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That's just sharp as hell, Jack.
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Thanks CX Pat im not sure who the maker of the Easyedge is
I bought this one at Dal tile for about $230. Heres a visual......
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a couple of times my old boss and myself, we would run the marble through the wet saw with a profile wheel on it. then we would make a jig a piece of plywood with a strip of 1x2 along the back edge, then lay the marble on the jig and hone it down together with a grinder and polishing wheels
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Jack, I guess I've been living inna cave, ain't never seen one of those. Easyedge, I'll havta remember that.

Does it take just one pass to get it bullnosed or several?
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Several passes, but it seems to go quick. Check with Dal, my local Dal store
carries them. They even have easy edge wheels that make Ogee on
a 1/2" thick tile. I havent tried one. Seems like it would be hard to polish
out that small of an ogee.
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