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01-06-2011, 02:25 PM
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JB
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Covina California
Posts: 21
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Schluter w/Roll-On Waterproofing ???
Just curious if any of you have come to the conclusion that the Kerdi install process takes a bit too long and have resorted to buying the tray, curb & drain and using Hydroban, Aquadefense etc... for the waterproofing ?
I'm looking at it because it saves me 25% on my materials & labor cost. I have a lower paid employee (trained in proper waterproofing application) that just does this as we get shower jobs... In this economy lower prices and thinking out of the box a little bit are king !
I'm interested in your opinions and thoughts... ( i know, I know ...warranty ...lol )
Jerry
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01-06-2011, 02:30 PM
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Tile and Stone Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Grand Junction, Colorado
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Jerry,
No problem with that if you feel confident in it, but why buy the Schluter pan and curb? Making your own is much cheaper on your end anyway.
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01-06-2011, 02:45 PM
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JB
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Covina California
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Well, for the curb your right...., but the pan is pre-sloped and ready for the Kerdi drain, which I like...
Thanks, that will cut another few bucks out of the process, every little bit helps.
Jerry
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01-06-2011, 05:00 PM
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Tampa Florida Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tampa, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeraza
In this economy lower prices and thinking out of the box a little bit are king !
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well you need to keep thinking out of the box more because the Kerdi tray is much more costly then some felt, wire, 3 bags of sand & a bag of portland.
and the more costly Schluter Kerdi is offset by the time you need to wait between mudding the floor and applying the liquid membrane.
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01-06-2011, 06:12 PM
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Pashley Tile
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Allentown Pa
Posts: 3,086
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Has anyone on here tried doing a mud base with the kerdi drain, Kerdi on the shower floor and curb, then liquid on the walls. I have a partial roll of Kerdi leftover, was thinking next shower I might just build me a Frankenstein/Frankengeueze shower.
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wwwpashleytile.com
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01-06-2011, 06:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: silver city
Posts: 5,973
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Yup chuck i do it all the time. just kerdi the floor and 6" up the walls then liquid love to top it off
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 jeff aka papi chulo. "I'll make you famous!"(William H. Bonney aka Billy The Kid)
 Schluter Kerdi and Ditra installer in Southern New Mexico
Castillo Construction
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01-06-2011, 06:34 PM
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Pashley Tile
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Allentown Pa
Posts: 3,086
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Does it seem to save a little time jeff?
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01-06-2011, 06:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: silver city
Posts: 5,973
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its still the same number of days chuck, drying times. just shorter days and less dinnero
but i can only give my own warranty
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 jeff aka papi chulo. "I'll make you famous!"(William H. Bonney aka Billy The Kid)
 Schluter Kerdi and Ditra installer in Southern New Mexico
Castillo Construction
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01-06-2011, 06:42 PM
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Pashley Tile
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Allentown Pa
Posts: 3,086
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Same warranty here Jeff, I like this idea, plus the customer gets a nicer drain.
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wwwpashleytile.com
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01-06-2011, 06:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: silver city
Posts: 5,973
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thats all i use now is the kerdi drain for every shower.
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 jeff aka papi chulo. "I'll make you famous!"(William H. Bonney aka Billy The Kid)
 Schluter Kerdi and Ditra installer in Southern New Mexico
Castillo Construction
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01-06-2011, 06:52 PM
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Tile and Stone Contractor
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Grand Junction, Colorado
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Jeff do you have to let the pan cure 3 days before applying kerdi also? I have never used kerdi, or a liquid for that matter, on my pan.
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01-06-2011, 06:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Allentown, Bethlehem, Easton, PA
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Chuck , I use kerdi for the floors all the time. Don't have to wait for the mud to dry. Few coats on the walls the next morning, clean the truck, then tile time.
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Infinite Ceramic & Stone
www.infiniteceramic.com
NTCA Pennsylvania State Rep
CTEF Certified Installer #769
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01-06-2011, 07:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: silver city
Posts: 5,973
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yeah levi u dont have to wait for mud to dry.
and as TileJoe has said
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 jeff aka papi chulo. "I'll make you famous!"(William H. Bonney aka Billy The Kid)
 Schluter Kerdi and Ditra installer in Southern New Mexico
Castillo Construction
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01-06-2011, 07:43 PM
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Pashley Tile
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Allentown Pa
Posts: 3,086
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It's alive! It's alive!
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01-06-2011, 08:08 PM
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Making Cents of It All
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Menifee , California
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I've done these that way too. Hydrobarrier an 9235 fabric on walls , then Kerdi on the pan. Quickly becoming my got to method.
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