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Unread 01-06-2011, 08:21 PM   #16
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too many products with different set up and applications.
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Unread 01-07-2011, 12:31 AM   #17
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I've done two with Kerdi on the floor and curb, then fabric and 9235 up the walls. Mainly because the liquid was going to expire in the near future and I didn't want it to go to waste.

There are less expensive liquids out there, I'm sure, but 9235 is more expensive psf than Kerdi. Kerdi takes more time initially, liquid has too much down time between coats. Still, I can do either method in one day. Only thing I really like about the liquid vs. Kerdi is no corner buildups.
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Unread 01-07-2011, 10:25 AM   #18
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Forget the kerdi on the floor- go Noble 5' wide roll gives you a shower floor with no seams.

Kerdi drain, liquid walls, modified thinset.

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Unread 01-07-2011, 10:26 AM   #19
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Thank's for the input guys, I like the idea of the kerdi pan & drain w/roll-on on the walls.. We'll give it a go next week...

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Unread 01-07-2011, 10:33 AM   #20
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I haven't used the Noble product, can you get nice tight corners ? I may call the local rep for a demo.
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Unread 01-07-2011, 01:03 PM   #21
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Jeff said he runs the kerdi up the wall, I was thinking of running the kerdi behind the cement board, like a liner.
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Unread 01-07-2011, 01:06 PM   #22
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Noble also makes 6' goods. Switched from Kerdi to the Noble for shower floors and apply the "liquid love". Oh, and they do allow "modified thinsets".
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Unread 01-07-2011, 01:34 PM   #23
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True, Dave. Noble CIS is 6' wide, and the TS is 5'. That CIS is soooo thick, will it stretch to conform to the shape of a showerpan?

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Jeff said he runs the kerdi up the wall, I was thinking of running the kerdi behind the cement board, like a liner.
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Unread 01-07-2011, 02:50 PM   #25
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No folds in the corner, no build up Hammy. Then the liquid on the walls. Maybe I'm overthinking this
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Sounds like a moisture sandwich plan to me Chuck.

Believe I've read it's one or the other,but never both.

Like using cheese wiz for cheeststeak for instance.
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Unread 01-07-2011, 04:57 PM   #27
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Don't get Brian started on cheesesteaks Micheal, he's probably jonesing for one by now.
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Unread 01-07-2011, 05:16 PM   #29
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Sounds like a moisture sandwich plan to me Chuck.
I don't see why that sounds like a moisture sandwich plan at all. I have kerdied and used liquids on my walls with pan liners...both approved methods...I kinda like chucks idea. You don't have to deal with the build up, you don't have to wait 3 days for the pan to dry, and you don't have to deal with a preslope.

My only question would be if water wicks up into the CBU the only place it would have to escape would be into the wall, but w/o a mud bed to soak up water how much water would really wick up? Prolly not much at all, specially if you paint the bottom of your cbu.
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interesting pan idea. Agree on the no moisture sandwich issue, certainly no different than traditional liner in that regard, just different material.
The only issue I see is the durability of the fleece. Not going to hold up to an inadvertant scraping by the cement board like a heavy liner I 'd think. Have to be pretty careful as the install goes forward.

I've also thought about slicing a thin layer off the face of the hardi (less than an 1/8) off the bottom 8"of the face of the board. you can do it with hardi as it peels apart pretty easy . Then using that slight depressed face for the verical fold of kerdi band and the corners and then a thin flash over that. Liquid applied over walls. I'm saving that for a glass tile wall job where I don't have time to cure the pan.(unless someone pokes a hole in my concept) Flat, no builldup walls done without waiting.
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