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Old 01-09-2009, 07:53 PM   #1
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Mike's Steam Shower Build

Apologize in advance if this has previously been discussed. I plan to begin tiling my shower in the morning but after filling the shower pan for inspection this morning, The floor is still wet in some areas. Not standing puddles just dampness. It's been about 8 hours since I drained it. The kerdi did not leak at all. Is this a sign of a problem, or am I good to go? Thanks for any input. Mike
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:57 PM   #2
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Hi Mike,

When you say wet, is it just wet or is there standing water on the floor. If there is standing water it means you didn't get a good consistent slope. You might be able to fix it with a little stiff thin set in strategic places before you set the tile.

It it's just damp or wet with no standing water I wouldn't worry about it.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:58 PM   #3
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If there are no puddles, then I would say you are good to go. The remaining dampness is probably caused by high humidity in the room itself, not a problem with the kerdi. Is there a fan in the bathroom?
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:07 PM   #4
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There are no puddles at all. Drainage seemed fine. I do have a fan in the room, I'll try it. Here in socal the santa ana winds just kicked up meaning very low humidity. Hopefully that and the fan should take care of it. Thanks alot for the quick responses.
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:13 PM   #5
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you are fine as long as you are overlapped at the seams 2"
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Old 01-10-2009, 12:17 AM   #6
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The kerdi did not leak at all. Is this a sign of a problem, or am I good to go?
No leaks is always a good thing. I water tested a brand new piece of kerdi and could not get it to stay damp (the fleece fibers)

I tried it with an old handled sample from the LTS and the fibers stayed wet. Still waterproof, but the fleece fibers held onto water unlike the new, untouched Kerdi piece.

As long as it don't leak through the membrane, you should be fine.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:16 AM   #7
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This morning all is dry. Thanks for the all the input. Gonna start tiling today.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:29 AM   #8
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which thinset for kerdi steam shower?

For this steam shower I will be using 6x6 for the ceiling, 13x13 for walls, and 1x1 mosaic for the floor, all porcelain tile. Schluter says unmodified thinset. This is my first kerdi shower (first shower actually) so I want to be sure. There is a lowes and home depot nearby as well as a few tile suppliers so I can get just about any thinset. Also, any advice on order of operations for setting the walls, ceiling or floor first would be helpfull. Thanks.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:38 AM   #9
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If you can get your hands on some Ditraset, that's what you want.

Otherwise, Kerabond, Laticrete 317, or Megabond (Lowes should carry at least one of these) will work well.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:48 AM   #10
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Mike,

I have merged your thinset question thread into your kerdi thread. We have a "one project, one thread" protocol on the forum and want to keep all the questions together. Also woul you click on the User CP tab in the dark blue toolbar and click on edit signature and add your first name to the signature line. Please add this thread to your favorites and ask all your project questions here. we can change the title to something more apropos if you would like.

You want to use unmodified thinset to set your tile. Lowe's carries different brands in different areas. At Lowe's you would want to use either Laticrete Megabond or Mapei Kerabond. HD is not going to have a good enough unmodified but you can use Versabond (which is slightly modified). You will void your Schluter warranty if you do so but many people here use it under and over kerdi.

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Also, any advice on order of operations for setting the walls, ceiling or floor first would be helpfull.
Dealer's choice on setting order. If it were me I would kerdi and set the ceiling and walls (leaving the bottom row undone) before I put in my mudbed. I would put in the mudbed, kerdi the floor, kerdi band the corners ans intersections with the walls, tile the floor and tile the bottom row of the shower. Then you don't have to spend so much time and energy protecting a floor that you are going to be walking on, tiling over and setting ladders on.

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Schluter says unmodified thinset. This is my first kerdi shower (first shower actually) so I want to be sure. There is a lowes and home depot nearby as well as a few tile suppliers so I can get just about any thinset.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:01 AM   #12
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Thanks for the heads up about thread protocol. I think I'll go with the megabond. As for the wall tile, due to the layout I'll have to make a cut on either the top or bottom course. Which would you cut? Thanks.
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I would plan on both! I have found most ceilings aren't level so it is tough to start on fulls at the top. If you are not leaving out the bottom course then you could start with fulls there if it leaves you a nice size piece at the top.
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Does the wall tile but up to or land on top of the floor and ceiling tile, or vice versa? Thanks.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:33 AM   #15
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Either way is acceptable but make sure you leave a gap equal to the grout joint. No tile should actually touch each other. There needs to be grout or caulk in between all tiles. The industry standard says that all changes of plane shall be caulked. I ignored that mandate and grouted my changes of plane.

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