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Unread 08-28-2016, 08:05 AM   #1
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Tile repair in one day

Just putting it in this forum because it's probably not much interest to the amateur, who can easily work on a problem over multiple days in his own house. But to a pro who wants to accomplish something in one trip in one day, is there a good way to do a tile repair and grout in one short session?

Currently I have to make a very simple tile repair. A tile that was adhered with mastic popped off. It's effectively a wall tile on the outside of a tub structure. The tile basically never was pressed into the adhesive since the trowel marks are intact. Anyway, the issue is I want to attach and grout it in one quick session. I don't want to make two one-hour round trips for this silly quick little thing. Even fast setting thinset takes a couple hours to set (although in this case it might be set enough to grout one tile in less time than that.) I'm wondering if another adhesive such as some sort of quick setting epoxy would be a better choice?
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Unread 08-28-2016, 08:56 AM   #2
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Just take your thinset and mix it thick and set the tile, let it be for a half hour and grout it, just wait longer than usual and keep extra grout aside for when you wipe down so you can add more grout if need be.

Here is a repair I did in one day, took about 5 hours with my wait times and the time it took to grind the thinset from all of the tiles and shave off the old grout from the removed tiles. I had a partial bag of 4xlt I used to set the tile, I mixed it on the thick side and wet the wall with a sponge before keying it into the wall and troweling notches.

If you look closely you can see that the tiles are tented in the middle, because of movement in the mortar bed behind the tile. Should be a complete redo, but the homeowners only wanted a cosmetic fix so they could live with it.

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Unread 08-28-2016, 09:12 AM   #3
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Use stiff thin set and put a few small dollops of Plaster of Paris or casting plaster on back of tile. The PoP hardens in about 20 minutes, ready for grout.
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Chris, slightly pull on the neighboring tiles to make sure others aren't ready to pop off too. Sometimes the whole area needs to be re-stuck.
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The tiles left on the wall were solid and didn't budge, I made sure to shove in thinset behind the edges of the remaining tile as I was setting, thanks for checking that Davy. The homeowners were happy for a one day, $300 repair.


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Unread 08-28-2016, 09:46 AM   #6
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Yeah, the plaster of paris idea is along the lines of what I'm looking for. Would a couple spots of 5 minute drywall compound work, you think?
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Unknown to me, the repair guy that worked for me used to use plaster in his thinset on wet areas. Few years later I often had to go back and repair the repair. Then unfortunately, he did a bunch of mud curbs on a hospital job same way. Had to replace all them.
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But of course this is not a wet area.
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Unread 08-28-2016, 02:44 PM   #9
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We use rapid set mortar and rapid set grout for those sorts of things. Easy 1-day repairs, or any small job for that matter.

We've also used stuff like Laticrete 310 rapid set for quick little jobs. It's perfect for a 1 tile repair and sets up in about 5 minutes or so.
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I've heard a dash of pure Portland will accelerate cure time.
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Unread 08-28-2016, 09:46 PM   #11
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Didn't say it was Jeff, just relating my experiences with plaster in tile work. Eating a large portion of a hospital wing with cement/plaster curbs is a memorable experience. We did keep plaster around for setting recessed fixtures that were not in a wet area.
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>We've also used stuff like Laticrete 310 rapid set for quick little jobs. It's >perfect for a 1 tile repair and sets up in about 5 minutes or so.

Ah, now we're talkin.
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Here is another vote for rapid set thinset.
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Rapid set thinset is OK, it's just too slow for doing one or two tiles if you have to grout as well.
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Unread 08-29-2016, 05:24 PM   #15
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Custom building products "Speedset" is a great fast set mortar in my opinion. We have used it on tons of repair jobs and small projects to great success. You can walk on this stuff in 4 hours. It sets up in 15-20 min.
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