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Unread 01-18-2016, 11:27 PM   #1
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Remove Tile Around Base Cabinets

Hi guys! Fixing a $5000 big orange install that was done before the cabinets were installed. The whole thing needs to come up. Homeowner is not happy at all. Really need to get this Tile up without disturbing or damaging the cabinets. Dust is also a big concern. I know someone out there has run into this I need to flush cut this Tile against cabinets to allow for new installation. Jamb saw, diamond blade, vacuum attached? Dremel tool? Please help!?
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Unread 01-19-2016, 05:42 AM   #2
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Toe kick saw.
Contractors direct has one.
I saw an open box from a harbor freight version at my local tile shop one day. So I guess harbor freight has one.
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Unread 01-19-2016, 06:06 AM   #3
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Your biggest problem is you are dealing with a customer who put price ahead of quality. From experience I can tell you every thing to this customer is going to be sticker shock. Before you get involved you will need to explain everything that goes into a proper tile installation. What sucks is it was a way easier install without the cabinets in place. I wish you the best. Toe kick saw with diamond blade. You are going to need a good vac!!!
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Unread 01-19-2016, 11:21 AM   #4
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There's also flush cut grinder options. And if you don't have one yet, it's time to invest in dust extraction equipment.

http://www.alpha-tools.com/Product.aspx?PageCode=170

http://www.mkdiamond.com/stone/bld_fc_cg.html

http://www.amazon.com/Toolocity-5TSA...8PXWRKPHGEJ3QE
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Unread 01-19-2016, 07:52 PM   #5
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Go ahead and tell them it's going to be dusty. Get a good vac and do the best you can but there's no way I would promise it'll be dustless.
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Unread 01-19-2016, 10:45 PM   #6
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Thanks a ton for your input guys! I have a good Toekick saw. Need to find a diamond blade for it. Not gonna be a joy by any means and there will be some level of a mess. I'll be sure to inform the customer. I do need a good vac for this kind of thing. Time to take out a small loan tho!! Not giving the good ones away are they?
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Unread 01-20-2016, 05:33 AM   #7
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A good vac with a cyclonic separator (Oneida Air Systems) works like a charm. If its a Crain Toe Kick saw they have a diamond blade for it.
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Unread 01-20-2016, 07:58 AM   #8
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If it's a Crain toe kick saw, we stock diamond blades for it. Just be warned, it will cut back about an 1/8" from the cabinets, so you will probably have to install quarter round against the cabinets.
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Unread 01-20-2016, 09:58 AM   #9
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Rayman,

I've got a toe kick saw, haven't used it in about 15 years at least. Can't imagine a scenario that I would intentionally put a diamond blade on it and cut tile under cabinets. IMO, there is no worthwhile reason to have a perfect line at that point. It just has to be close enough to hide with quarter round.

From my experience, after chiseling up the the bulk of the tile, the remaining tile will either snap at the cabinet line or will be loose enough to remove in pieces at the cabinet. Worst case has been to break up the remaining pieces with a hammer.
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Unread 01-21-2016, 10:17 AM   #11
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Dino, the bit spins freely doesn't it? I'm not too keen of those air chisels because of that reason.

I agree with Ray. Just chisel up close to it and then put a piece of cardboard up against the cabinet base and chip down. It cuts it close enough for you tile up close to it and add quarter round or the front skirting
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I have the same air chisel. It works great. I use aluminum step flashing as protection. Also use a "cheater" that painters use when they are spraying.
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Unread 01-21-2016, 07:11 PM   #13
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We use the Makita HK810 power scraper for demo in tight spaces. Looks expensive for its size but a great tool to have. Very solid and well made.

I use a big Bosch for larger areas of tile removal but the Makita for the tight spaces or areas that require very careful removal.


http://www.amazon.com/Makita-HK1810-.../dp/B00004YOKZ
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Unread 01-21-2016, 08:59 PM   #14
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That model number of the Power Scraper is Makita HK1810.
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Unread 01-21-2016, 11:05 PM   #15
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yes and no...

If you keep the chuck tight, and a steady hand on it, you can control it pretty good,
a lot of people have issues with the air chisels because they let the chuck become loose. " then it becomes sloppy" However if its good and tight, you pretty much have a good accurate control of it. I have several of the wide bits that ive put different grinds on, and I seem to have some pretty accurate control with it.

just hold that bit in your hand.....keep in mind that it works off of vibration.. so its not gonna bite ya.. its smooth... and cost effective.

good luck

you can get real close without worry
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