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Unread 03-08-2005, 03:32 PM   #16
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Hi Denise

Let's not jump the gun here. Try the vinegar cleaning first. (Baby steps!)
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Unread 03-08-2005, 03:40 PM   #17
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make sure you always wipe in a diagnal across the tiles. or you dig out the grout. wipe once about 4 feet then flip, rinse sqweeze.!! repeat Ive never used a coloring agent but I do waite around 10 - 15 days and then seal it with some impregnator 511. jus follow all directions. You know grout is funny and meticulous in a way, right down to mixing speed. It takes a few days!!
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Unread 03-08-2005, 04:20 PM   #18
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I tried the vinegar...no go. It helped SOME..but not totally. I don't know if I should keep doing it or just go to the color sealant. This is quite discouraging.
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Unread 03-08-2005, 04:25 PM   #19
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Hi Denise

Did you agitate with stiff brush?

As a last resort, try full strength. Dampen the joint with water first, and rinse well afterwards. You should see some fizzing during the cleaning process.
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Unread 03-08-2005, 05:08 PM   #20
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I had the same problem but the grout never recovered. The color was suppose to be Mocha....most areas were gray! I didn't do a good job mixing the large bags of grout and didn't know the color would fade. The vingar solution did nothing but make it worse. I bought dye from the Grout Dye company (online) and it appears to work well. It does have a painted on appearence but you can't tell unless you get really close. Also, their mocha is more like stone gray. But it looks much better than the multi-tone of the original grout. If you order from them.....tell them you are in a hurry and rush the shipment. The 5 days they promise turned in to 2 weeks.
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Unread 03-08-2005, 09:50 PM   #21
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i was under the assumption I could go to Lowes and get this stuff. I thought I read where I could find it there...am I wrong? I tried 3/4 vinegar and 1/4 water and used a stiff brush...no fizzing that I could see. You CAN see a bit of a diff but I'd say it's a 50% improvement...not sure if I should keep it up or not?
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Unread 03-08-2005, 10:14 PM   #22
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Sounds like it's working so keep it up Denise. Go with full strength vinegar as John suggested, let it dwel for 5 minutes then hit it with a brush.
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Unread 03-09-2005, 08:54 AM   #23
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am having to do quite a lot of scrubbing for minimal results, am wondering if the colorant wouldn't be a quicker way to solve my problems? My bathroom is starting to smell like easter eggs!
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Unread 03-09-2005, 09:18 AM   #24
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Hi Denise

If that's what you need to do, then let's move on.

Before you proceed with grout colorant or stain, make sure the rest of the grout is nice and clean (necessary for a good bond).

You may want to go over the vinegar treated area with a 1:4 solution of clear ammonia and water to neutralize the grout 1st.
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*laugh* before I move on, do you think I'm giving up too easily? I've read there is an acid to use too...Honestly, it's taken us so long to get this bathroom done, I just want this floor to be complete so we can get the toilet, vanity (laundry room connected) and washer and dryer upstairs! My husband isn't happy w/ me b/c I am the one that wanted the tile(he wanted to do linoleum or laminant flooring) and I just want to get this fixed so I can feel better about making him install it!
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Unread 03-09-2005, 11:17 AM   #26
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I was in the same situation...... I was tired of using vingar and getting NO good results. I just wanted to get done with the project. These folk like the vingar solution but I think it only works in certain situations. I know it didn't work for me (bad mixture). I was told you could purchase the grout dye (actually paint) at lowes, however if they have it....it is special order only. I used the dye (grout dye company) two days ago and there has been no fading....it has actually gotten darker. It is also very consistant in color, the dark areas and light areas now finally match.
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cool, when you ordered it, how many days did it take to come in? I am going to try one more suggestion that Home Depot had...(some acide that is made for this problem..sulfamic or something of that sort) and then I'm going to resort to ordering the colorant. Did you order something that was close to your color or did you order something way darker?
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It took 2.5 weeks for the order to arrive. They say 5 days......don't believe it! I'm not sure if it is the best product available but it does work. We'll see how it wears. The color was not close to the Mocha that I bought from lowes. It has a toupe (spelling?) look to it. Similar to the Bone Mapei.....I believe it was one of the darkest colors available. But.....even though it is lighter than my wife preferred it looks much better than the grout...... I'm just happy I'm done with it! There was one more site.....if you have internet access search through Google for 'Grout Dye'. I believe there were a few sites that offered non-mixing , ready-to-use dyes. The Grout Dye Company is the one I used.
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Unread 03-09-2005, 05:23 PM   #29
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Why not just dampen the grout if you put it on yesterday and using a stiff brush to get just enough grout out of the bad spot to re-grout correctly like the rest of your floor turned out.ps if you wait too long it is tough to get grout out.but you only need to remove say a 1/16"of it in depth then regrout with properly mixed grout.after all only the top of the grout shows!!JUst an idea that worked for us once(first time we tiled also,too much wiping too quick)
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That’s definitely the correct way to address a small area. For me, I had 215 sq. ft. of flooring, out of that about 1/3 of the grout faded. By the time I scrubbed it with vinegar multiple times the last thing I was going to do was start removing grout. I don’t understand why folks are so against using dye. It works really well. I’m sure it will eventually fade/discolor as well…..when that happens repaint it. It is much easier than trying to remove grout, especially for part-timers with kids! I guess there are traditionalists out there……
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