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Unread 10-22-2021, 02:28 PM   #1
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Go Figure.....

Interesting encounter. Looked at a job recently. "Wood look" tile floors in most areas...no problem. Then, we have the shower.

Slab everywhere...reasonably flat. 3x4 shower and his wife wanted no curb. OK, I would either have to jackhammer the area and mud set it or, as I recommended, build up a "hump" with deck mud to give a "drop" to the drain. Covered with Kerdi or Hydroban and tying into the walls...either Kerdi walls or Trident board and Kerdi band at the seams. Wheelchair accessible over the 2" or so "hump" at the entryway. Done several like this with no issues.

Long and the short of it is that I was underbid and was told that this guy was going to use a 1" or so curb. Obviously, no "water in/water out" system would work here and a direct bonded system only makes sense. Still, with 1/4" per foot rise from the drain, which would be about 3/4" inch at the drain flange to four feet to the "curb," we're still looking at a rise at the curb of at least an inch or better. Love to see a flood test on that....

Still, I hate to see someone get "taken" on this technique, but I see no way it would work. Gave him a card and told him to call me in six months.....
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Unread 10-22-2021, 08:34 PM   #2
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That's about right.

All other things being equal (labor rates, profit margin, etc.), some components of a bid coming in lower than another is one that includes less work, less skill, and or less technical knowledge. Looks like this other big hit on two or perhaps all three components. Folks that hire skilled trades based mostly on price are tough to please, IMHO. Maybe it's a good one not to get?
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Unread 10-23-2021, 09:20 AM   #3
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Inclined to agree with you.

Called to give him some free advice on how & why a one inch curb wouldn't work on a flat slab. He got huffy with me because he happened to be at work.... Fine, make a $5,000 mistake. No skin off my back.
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Unread 10-23-2021, 10:28 AM   #4
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You don't have to bust out the whole slab in the shower. You can taper it down, mud it back up with proper slope and do a divot type drain. I still put a speed bump (about 3/4 high) across the curb area to keep the door from dragging the floor.
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Unread 10-23-2021, 01:14 PM   #5
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That was pretty much what I had in mind...

Although I had not thought of a divot drain. I thought to use a Kerdi drain and run the mud at the flange (3/4" or so) up to the walls and to the slope I had imagined at about 2" or so....and around the walls at about the same height......

Nice walls and a nice "wrap" though, Davy.....
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Unread 10-23-2021, 05:38 PM   #6
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Thanks. I wasn't crazy about the pattern but they liked it, that's all that matters.
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Tight work there Davy!!!
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