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Unread 05-16-2016, 01:48 PM   #1
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Wrong grout in Pebble shower floor

So we have flat pebbles in our shower/ tub combo. Looks great. Until we went to grout the pebbles. We went with Custom Building Products - Fusion Pro®. I am sure it works well when installed in 1/8" and less grout spaces. But it has cracked everywhere on this install. I am wondering what is the best solution moving forward. I installed a Wedi product underneath the pebbles along with RedGuard. So I feel like it is waterproof but I really don't want the grout to have cracks in it. Plus I feel like it will only get worse as time goes on. I now have done my research and it looks like you should only install sanded grout in with pebbles.

But I need some help here for moving forward. I don't want to compound the error with another one. So can someone please help.

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Options:
1. Remove the Pebbles and start over

2. Remove as much grout as possible and then regrout with sanded grout

3. Remove the grout where I see cracks and put the same stuff back down.



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Unread 05-16-2016, 06:09 PM   #2
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Welcome Kyle,

If would strongly suggest option #1. Fusion Pro is not a bad grout in the right application, but a pebble floor, especially one in a shower, is not one of them.
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Unread 05-16-2016, 08:41 PM   #3
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Hi Kyle,

I'm sorry to say that I agree with the more painful option #1.

How long has it been since installing pebbles and grouting with Fusion Pro?

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Unread 05-16-2016, 08:54 PM   #4
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Fusion Pro's literature states it's not for use on pebble floors or with grout joints larger or deeper than 1/2".
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Unread 05-17-2016, 09:58 AM   #5
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Well I have not even had a shower in their yet! I did hear back from the grout manufacturer. They suggested using an epoxy remover to remove the grout. I tried it last night and it actually comes out very easy. I think I may go this route and then apply a cement based grout over the top. That is what the manufacturer is suggesting.
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Fusion Pro's literature states it's not for use on pebble floors or with grout joints larger or deeper than 1/2"

Totally agree!! But it does not say that on the bucket. How many contractors actually read the website? Probably not many. Plus almost all the grout says not above 1/2 inch. So by specs the Prism is not supposed to be installed either along with all but one of their sand grout. Just frustrating. The manufacturer said to add sand to one of the cement grouts to ensure it does not crack. We will see how it goes getting all the grout out.

Any other thoughts??? Thanks a ton.
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Unread 05-22-2016, 02:36 AM   #8
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Hi Kyle,

I used that same grout in a flat pebble shower and had no cracking issues. Was it hot or dry or both at the time you used it? I had issues getting it off the stone and ended up digging out the joints a bit more than I'd like. But this stuff is now like cement and not a single crack.
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Unread 05-22-2016, 01:18 PM   #9
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How many contractors actually read the website?
Around here, most. Out in the rest of the world is anyone's guess. Judging from the amount of problem jobs from "contractors" we see here, I'd have to say 'very few'.
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In addition to the specs for Fusion is the specs for a Wedi shower pan. The manual states that tile under 2x2 inches needs epoxy grout. They do have an exception for pebble shower floors but the exception if to use modified cement grout. (page 8)
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Unread 08-10-2016, 08:33 AM   #11
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End result?

Hi Bowie

How did your fix turn out in the end? I have a similar floor in my upcoming project, and I'll post my questions there; but, I would like to know what grout you ended up using and was it sanded or unsanded?

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Unread 08-10-2016, 10:00 AM   #12
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This is the product we recommend for pebbles. It's a high-end cement based grout that is designed to not crack or discolor:

http://www.mapei.com/public/US/produ...rplusfa-en.pdf
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