Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile

Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet


Advertiser Directory
JohnBridge.com Home
Buy John Bridge's Books

Go Back   Ceramic Tile Advice Forums - John Bridge Ceramic Tile > Tile & Stone Forums > Professionals' Hangout

Sponsors


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Unread 11-27-2011, 08:25 AM   #1
grymes56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New york
Posts: 286
glass groove in stone curb?

I have a shower I am working on that will require that the frameless glass slide into a slot or groove in the curb with no u-channel or clips showing (about 3/8" deep into the 1 1/4" stone should be sufficient). Before I potentially make myself look like a jackass when I ask my stone fabricator to rout out a groove in the curb slab - I thought I'd ask here first Do most slab fabricators even have the ability to rout straight grooves? I have to assume they have a diamond version of a woodworking straight bit or end mill.
__________________
Kyle

Last edited by grymes56; 11-27-2011 at 09:00 AM.
grymes56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Unread 11-27-2011, 09:18 AM   #2
java
Hugging Trees Oct. 1st
 
java's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 2,683
A stone fab shop will have no problem cutting a groove.
__________________
Jason
java is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 09:49 AM   #3
eurob
Not...Sure
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: four seasons area
Posts: 2,457
Kyle,

Some of the shops will do it , some will not. When they refuse to do it , I do the grooves myself.

No problem to do them .

Name:  TS Seal before.jpg
Views: 344
Size:  36.3 KB Name:  TS Seal after 1.jpg
Views: 307
Size:  37.8 KB
__________________
Roberto

There was something here but is no longer available
eurob is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 10:22 AM   #4
grymes56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New york
Posts: 286
Roberto - do you cut the slot completely through the stone, or just make a depth-limited groove? What tools do you use?

Im worried about cutting completely through this because dark emperador marble is so veiny, and I will be left with 30" long 'forks' only 2 inches wide. I'd rather not have to pay to get both sides rodded.
__________________
Kyle
grymes56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 11:11 AM   #5
eurob
Not...Sure
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: four seasons area
Posts: 2,457
Kyle,

I never cut the slots all the way thru the stone . This will make the cut sections of the stone very fragile .

Cutting a 1/4 to 3/8 grooves into the stone , depending of the thickness , it is sufficient. Installing rods on the stone is really a personal call , depending of the fragility of the stone and how '' delicate '' the manipulation of it is, prior to installation .

When I have to cut grooves in the stone , I use a marble blade with a wet sponge , installed on a 5'' grinder . To finish the groove in the corners I use a bosch , dremel type , with a 1/4 diamond bit.

In your situation , 1 1/4 thick , cutting a groove of 1/4 to 3/8 into it , it should not require any roding. However , the marble is prone to chipping if blade is not appropriate.

You can always try it on scrap piece and see how comfortable you feel doing it.
__________________
Roberto

There was something here but is no longer available
eurob is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 11:40 AM   #6
grymes56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New york
Posts: 286
so you just make a bunch of passes? to get a 1/2" wide groove with a 1/16" thick grinder blade will take upwards of 8 passes...
__________________
Kyle
grymes56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 11:51 AM   #7
eurob
Not...Sure
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: four seasons area
Posts: 2,457
Yeah . It takes more than 8 passes , but this is not an issue if the desired look is accomplished.
__________________
Roberto

There was something here but is no longer available
eurob is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 01:47 PM   #8
Houston Remodeler
Pondering retirement daily

STAR Senior Contributor

 
Houston Remodeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Houston Texas
Posts: 28,236
But then why do you need the groove at all? Placing the glass panel directly over the slab will work too, then silicone it into place. Once the silicone cures, you're good to go.
__________________
Paul1

For when DIY isn't such a good idea...
Houston TX area Kitchen & Bath Remodeling


http://CabotAndRowe.com
Houston Remodeler is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 03:26 PM   #9
grymes56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New york
Posts: 286
yea i know some guys are comfortable using silicone only - but on a wide panel if someone bumps it hard enough you could create enough lateral force to break the silicone only bond. a groove or channel creates a mechanical means of resisting lateral force.
__________________
Kyle
grymes56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 09:19 PM   #10
Jhereg
Signature Tile - Owner
 
Jhereg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Renton, Wa
Posts: 1,147
... and shattering the panel instead of popping it loose. I don't like it.
__________________
Chad N. owner
Signature Tile - Renton, Washington
www.signaturetile.net (a work in progress)
Jhereg is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-27-2011, 09:40 PM   #11
grymes56
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: New york
Posts: 286
not likely. besides - it's no different than using clips or metal u-channel that is screwed down to the curb (how most people do it) in that regard. shattering tempered glass from lateral force is highly unlikely - it is sharp blows to the glass edge that usually results in breakage.
__________________
Kyle
grymes56 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2011, 09:14 AM   #12
John Bridge
Mudmeister
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Rosanky, Texas
Posts: 68,775
Send a message via AIM to John Bridge
My vote is for silicone only -- no groove. Nobody's gonna break it loose after it has set. Nobody without shattering the glass.
John Bridge is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 11-28-2011, 04:15 PM   #13
eurob
Not...Sure
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: four seasons area
Posts: 2,457
The glass installers do not like to rely only on silicone -- no groove , in my area of course .

Aquariums rely only on silicone....... but everyone has their own technic.
__________________
Roberto

There was something here but is no longer available
eurob is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Stonetooling.com   Tile-Assn.com   National Gypsum Permabase


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can river stone tile on curb work with frameless glass wall & door? Lisa Kerlin Tile Forum/Advice Board 8 08-31-2011 05:26 PM
Stone shower curb It'sMike Tile Forum/Advice Board 6 07-17-2009 02:22 PM
Glass Block Curb Hammy Professionals' Hangout 2 05-06-2009 09:10 AM
Installing glass blocks on curb Lon Allen Tile Forum/Advice Board 13 01-04-2005 08:23 PM
Glass on the Curb jpasch Tile Forum/Advice Board 2 07-29-2004 04:56 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:36 AM.


Sponsors

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2018 John Bridge & Associates, LLC