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Unread 02-03-2008, 01:47 AM   #1
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How to tile a floating restaurant

My brother in law is looking at buying a restaurant on the lake. and i went to look at it for him. I was wondering if there is anyway to tile the kitchen and bar floor with out it cracking out in 3 months. Dont know if anyone could help. there is vinyl on the floor right now. Im guessing maybe for a reason.

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Unread 02-03-2008, 07:39 AM   #2
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Hello Brandon,
I'm sure something could be built to withstand floating, but since this is already built, give us an idea of the structure.
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Unread 02-03-2008, 08:14 AM   #3
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I smell an epoxy grout in your future.
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Unread 02-03-2008, 08:24 AM   #4
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Epoxy Everything! We used to install quarry tile and 2x2 mosaics in Navy ships. The floor fill, thinset and grout were all epoxy.
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Unread 02-03-2008, 09:39 AM   #5
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Hi Brandon,

If you come up with a plan at all I think it should include Ditra or Nobleseal TS.
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Unread 02-03-2008, 01:27 PM   #6
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Is the restaurant on a boat? If so, the whole boat should move together, the floor shouldnt flex or move like a wave. That only happens after the second six pack. Or of course if it is breaking apart and sinking. I think setting on Ditra would be a good idea.

My take on the epoxy for the Navy ship is: maintenance and cleaning, it will stick to the floor surface, and it is expensive so the government likes it.
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Unread 02-04-2008, 07:15 AM   #7
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Dave,
Ships, like buildings, are designed to flex so they don't snap in half under stress. This restaurant boat probably isn't big but it will still flex.

Could you consult an architect? I would definitely consult the manufacturer before I tried this though. Also if there's any kind of shipyards of any kind near you, talk to them. They either might know how it's done; or possibly tell you who does stuff on their boats who has experience with these situations. You never know; they might be willing to help answer some questions.
I smell epoxy too though.
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I don't know how you guys got on this boat tangent. buying a "restaurant on the lake" doesn't neccesarily mean its a boat.....lol

the majority of the restaurants I have seen on the lake, bay or ocean are usually built on pylons/columns like a dock but better.

before we all assume, let's see what he has to say on the structure of this place.
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Unread 02-04-2008, 11:54 AM   #9
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He said it was a floating restaurant. Yes this could be hooked around pylons so it doesn't move, but I would still treat it as a boat.

Talk to the manufacturer of the setting materials you use. They should be able to spec a proper product for this job.
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Unread 02-04-2008, 01:38 PM   #10
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i cant see the structure until he buys it but. i think the restaurant is really floating . could not tell you how much it flex's or moves. Im sure it depends alot on boat traffic. thanks for all your help
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You've got our attention, Brandon. Is it on the Missouri River, a calm lake, or the ocean blue? Give us all the details, this will be a good one for the search option.
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Is is on smithville lake, in smithville mo. Is a small lake but gets heavy boat traffic on the weekends. It is not rally hidden back in a cove either. It is right off the main channel Here is a link to a satalight photo of where it is is on the lake.

Is is in the middle of the white bars in the middle of the page

Sat Photo 1

sat photo 2 of the actuall restaurant

Hope this helps
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Unread 02-05-2008, 11:43 AM   #15
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I would mud it with wire and latex. We used to do some installations like that. If they had steel plate thick as Battle Cruisers, epoxy might be an option but epoxy has no give.
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