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Unread 01-07-2010, 07:44 PM   #3091
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Yup, got the book and the kerdi pdf. Johns list is the basics that I listed more or less, but from reading just about every thread here, there's a whole lot more stuff that's needed to do a job easily and produce a quality result.

I'm a quick study and I'll figure it out, I just want to buy what I need ahead of time rather than having to stop mid task and have to run to Homers/Manards/Lowes to buy some pad/disk/blade/stone/bit/widget I didn't realize I would need.

What I have figured out so far is tiling is at least 50% planing the job out before you ever touch a tool. I like that. Having a ball with Sketchup.

Being pre-retired, (RIF'ed after 30yrs), I have plenty of time to do the job right. The wife is just thrilled she gets 2 bathrooms and a laundry room redone, but I expect she'll be wanting new kitchen counter tops and back splash after that.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 07:55 PM   #3092
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To me,tilesetters,I mean the full blown type,have tool arsenals similar to Batman.To each his own,and each and every one of us has our tool preferences be it Target/Dewalt,Sigma/Rubi etc etc.But,if you're serious about this tile stuff,many items you need to get from Midwest,Contr.Direct,or Gundlach.HD just doesnt have alot of the specialty items youll need....Get some catalogs.That will give you an idear of whats available.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 08:35 PM   #3093
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I agree with Tiki, I have so many tools, my normal arsenal is nippers, tape, pencil, margin, trowel, beating block, rubbing stone, hand cutter, levels. wedges, level, wetsaw, cords, drills, flat trowels, shears, knives (all types) and tons more. Sawzaw, circ saw, knee pads, 11 other trowels. 6 levels, screws, nails, tape blue, carbide scoring knife, caulk guns quart and 12 oz size. sponges buckets, small hose to fill buckets when the hose bibs too low outside the house, grinder, float. straght edges, mixing box, hoe, shovel, every spacer size available. Theres so much more to add. and common sense.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 08:59 PM   #3094
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Have you guys ever gone bare bones in the tool department?
I drive a company van that is loaded to the hilt, but occasionally I've had to switch vehicles or get stuck without my van for whatever reason. This trains me to get one bucket together with all the tools I can forecast needing for a specific task. You really don't need a truckload of tools to do tile. It makes it easier, more efficient, and quite frankly, fun, but not necessary. I like to think using the least amount of tools hones my skillz (though I like to buy LOTS of new tools).
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Unread 01-07-2010, 09:22 PM   #3095
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Tommorow I am doing a shower, nippers, hand cutter, tape, pencil, wedges, stone, buckets and I may survive its 6x8 with a tight joint i think. I have a leather bag with tools in it and a canvas bag with all my mud tools like snips, staples trowel and rubbing block I leave the bags in my truck i don't even bother taking the bag out any more.
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Unread 01-07-2010, 09:23 PM   #3096
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my first hydroban shower

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Unread 01-07-2010, 09:24 PM   #3097
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Rick,

How much did that " common sense " cost yah ?
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Unread 01-07-2010, 09:36 PM   #3098
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my first hydroban shower

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Unread 01-07-2010, 09:44 PM   #3099
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my first hydroban shower

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Unread 01-07-2010, 09:50 PM   #3100
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my first hydroban shower

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Unread 01-08-2010, 12:13 AM   #3101
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It's be more straight forward with just Kerdi..and about a day faster..Brian... sorry man I just couldn't resist
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Unread 01-08-2010, 12:45 AM   #3102
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Looks good Brian.
You like the Hydroban?
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Unread 01-08-2010, 07:25 AM   #3103
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I do like it, and I don't mind being poked about the time framing either, because I agree it would be quicker with a Kerdi system, I think the jury is still out, but the Hydroban shower is a little cheaper... works out excellent these days having to mail Obama another payment ... , and with 2 showers and 5 floors in this new home I have had plenty to do during the drying cycles. The thing I didn't like about it was the 72 hour wait to go over the dry pack with Kerdi I could have installed the pan membrane and flor tile the next morning and not had to fool with those stoopit ledger boards ... Hate doing that ... There is also a slight feeling of the Hydroban seperating during house movement, hence the fabric. I have three more showers on the schedule, all planned to be CBU / Hydroban, I'll understand more in's and out's of the product then, but for now there are more in'$ than out'$.

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Unread 01-08-2010, 08:06 PM   #3104
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Unread 01-08-2010, 08:44 PM   #3105
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Kevin..Awesome!!!


Brian if you have other things to do during curing time then I agree..It's a wash.

Has the had any cure issues ect?
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