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03-21-2014, 05:04 PM
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Chicago Tile Contractor
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Steger, IL
Posts: 200
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Quote:
Originally Posted by richard
I posted this for the benefit of others not a Pro like you. People should not expect the system to crank tiles into plane. It's a fine tuning system.
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Thanks Richard, but as you said that doesn't tell a Pro like me a whole lot. What you're saying then is you only need 4 straps per tile no matter what size and weight the tile is in your world. I want to know from John how much power those straps have. He obviously felt a need to use a couple next to each other in a few spots. I have set enough tile in my life to know a 24 x 24 x 1/2 porcelain is beastly enough to need probably more than 4 straps with the Tuscan system. The MLT caps are so large, but do the straps have any more strength? If your floor is perfectly in plane as it is in your world Richard, than you should be able to get away with 4 straps on 4 ft x 4 ft x 3/4 for that matter.
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"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company."
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http://www.paramountinstallations.com
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03-21-2014, 05:12 PM
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#19022
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Retired Tile Contractor
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Homosassa Springs, Fl
Posts: 2,689
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I have never encountered a perfectly in plane floor. But I have spent days getting it flat........mostly ceement (Paul1TM) slabs.
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03-21-2014, 05:14 PM
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#19023
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Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,360
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Combining new and old, here is a master with Ceasarstone platform, seat, and curb along with a hand-made 2x6 from a little boutique kiln called Blue Slide.
...and features of Spring onyx with downpour glass liners
Ceasarstone can have next to invisible seams if the resin is colored just right
The feature is repeated for the vanity splash
With a nice overlay of liners
...which was accomplished by backing the onyx with 1/4" Wedi board, and a vertical liner to cap.
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03-21-2014, 05:24 PM
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#19024
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Chicago Tile Contractor
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Steger, IL
Posts: 200
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Looks beautiful Marty.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
I have never encountered a perfectly in plane floor. But I have spent days getting it flat........mostly ceement (Paul1TM) slabs.
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I don't know if that means you were milking the job or if the slab was that bad Richard, but I commend you for getting it flat!
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"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company."
George Washington
http://www.paramountinstallations.com
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03-21-2014, 05:47 PM
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Not...Sure
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: four seasons area
Posts: 2,457
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ParamountInstaller
The caps are beastly large, but I don't know how strong those straps are to crank things plumb.
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George , those straps -- the MLT porcelain tile ones -- have enough crank to make things plumb . You have different settings on the gun to torque them -- around 3 mark -- without snapping them .
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03-21-2014, 09:09 PM
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#19026
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Prince Rupert BC Canada
Posts: 2,144
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George
Had a long day so didnt have time to respond. I used a few extra straps on the end walls and especially on the front of the tub because the walls werent very flat there. I wanted to really crank up the straps.
I floated the back wall, so didnt need to there. These tiles had a bit of a bow in them, or else I could have not used any where I floated.
Looking back I should have just floated this whole job.
I find MLT does crank up more than TLS. I dont use the settings on my gun anymore. I leave it at "S". After a while you figure out the limit, or breaking strength, I rarely break them by accident anymore.
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03-22-2014, 09:45 AM
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Willy Nilly
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: NV/UT
Posts: 337
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The pics of the work you guys do is really inspiring. The accuracy of your installations is amazing.
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Tile Your World,
cause' painting sucks!
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03-22-2014, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1,280
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I agree William, it's like they are using micrometers and dial indicators. I can't draw a straight line with a ruler and pencil.
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03-22-2014, 06:51 PM
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#19029
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,360
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It's a good thing I use my IPhone or you would see mistakes lol! Here's some nice fuzzy shots of a secondary bath. House in Palo Alto.
Schluter sciene for trim. This is how you cap a mud float
And a niche
And a powder room wainscot. The field is a ceramic crema marfil look alike
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03-22-2014, 07:56 PM
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#19030
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Chicago Tile Contractor
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Steger, IL
Posts: 200
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Way to use the fuzzy for forums setting on your phone Marty! I'm sure it's top notch!
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George
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company."
George Washington
http://www.paramountinstallations.com
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03-22-2014, 09:44 PM
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#19031
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Prince Rupert BC Canada
Posts: 2,144
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Marty
Been thinking more about it, I like your idea of building up higher and lapping the tile over the tub. I'm not worried about sealing that area, I can think of lots of ways to do it.
I just think it does look pretty clean, now that you have posted up a few good pictures.
Im not sure how it would have looked on this tub though, it has that "lip" or "bump" or whatever on the outside edge. I think it would look better on a tub that is flat in that area.
I've actually seen this particular tub a lot lately. I hate it. Its a huge pain to work behind that headrest, almost no room, and on top of that it has a huge curve in the flange. I've had to miter out the back side of the tile or I would have a big gap at the bottom. Theres just no easy way to work with this tub, unless I was the one to install it myself. Its got to be dead on, or things just don't work out. And its never dead on (or even close) when I get to the job. This one for example was half inch out of level, and set in the opening out of square (one side of the back wall flange was sticking out past the board, and the other was buried beneath the board.)
Regardless, I'll run it by the homeowner next time it comes up. Let them decide.
Last edited by jwmezzanotte; 03-22-2014 at 09:50 PM.
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03-23-2014, 12:12 PM
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#19032
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 1,360
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ParamountInstaller
Way to use the fuzzy for forums setting on your phone Marty! I'm sure it's top notch! 
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It's an on-going thing for me to get razzed for my blurry photos in this thread George. Or get my thumb in the shot. But it's not like I'm trying, I just suck at taking pics lol!
John, didn't mean to make you second guess, it's all good with a shower curtain  and it's not easy to correct for a tub that out-of-level, great job of not making it show.
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03-23-2014, 12:48 PM
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#19033
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Prince Rupert BC Canada
Posts: 2,144
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Marty
Not really second guessing, i think it will work either way. I just think with the right tub, installed the right way, your description will look nicer. Ill keep it in mind.
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03-23-2014, 09:19 PM
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#19034
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Tile & Stone Contracor
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Detroit metro area
Posts: 109
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03-23-2014, 09:55 PM
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#19035
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Chicago Tile Contractor
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Steger, IL
Posts: 200
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You look great in that picture Dino! What have you done with your hair!
No in all seriousness, Dino, looks great.
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George
"Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company."
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