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Old 02-09-2019, 10:37 PM   #1
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Put a date on this beauty

Good day all,

1st, sorry for the picture angle...I get dizzy looking at them too. Sorry.

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Bought it in 2015.

Would you say it's been leaking from the beginning ?

I'd love to ear you guys about how bad this was done. Anything you see.

I see spacing where water can escape the drain and go between the drain and the tiles, screws through the membrane (? is that really a thing ?), the membrane not going over the shower curb...all in all, a design that's going to fail any day.

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Old 02-09-2019, 10:59 PM   #2
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I agree, leaking from day one.

You've got some structural work ahead of you on this one.
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Old 02-09-2019, 11:02 PM   #3
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Hi Patrick, welcome. Yep, if the liner doesn't even cover the top of the curb, it's pretty much been leaking since day 1.
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:00 PM   #4
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Thank you guys. Hopefully i'll find a way to trust a ceramic shower again when rebuilding it. This all does not seem like an exact science, and I am all about what's proven.

Please, to all the other experts, I would appreciate if you added a few words on how this looks like its been leaking since day 1.

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Old 02-11-2019, 07:06 PM   #5
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I think a lot of the confusion is that there are numerous industry recommended methods to build a successful shower. It's not particularly hard, but it IS very detail oriented. Way too many people seem to want to try to reinvent the wheel without the advantage of all of the industry hindsight that has refined those methods. Pick one, and follow through and it will technically be fine. Aesthetically, that's another issue, some succeed, some fail. The advantage to a DIY'er is that they generally have more time unless it's their only bathroom, for example. FWIW, your second one will look nicer than the first, and it will take less time to achieve, but if you get the rest right, at least in the interim, it won't leak.
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Old 02-11-2019, 07:37 PM   #6
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Patrick, what I meant by that is the curb gets pounded with water during every shower. Tile and grout are not waterproof and if the waterproofing membrane under the tiles (the liner) didn't cover the top of the curb, then water was almost immediately getting to the wood.
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:27 PM   #7
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Patrick,
That looks almost as bad as mine did when we removed the tile and CBU, except the shower walls were also infested with termites. Ours resulted from an improperly installed pan liner that was installed with roofing nails below the level of the mud in a corner. Our house is a couple of years older than yours. It was a horrible mess. Some of the studs were completely gone.
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:53 PM   #8
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Tonto, using the fingers in your picture for scale, is that a giant raisin just to the left of your fingers? Must be the size of a baseball....

Oh, it’s a date. I get it now... Lord am I slow witted today..
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Old 02-11-2019, 10:23 PM   #10
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Welcome, Patrick.
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Please, to all the other experts, I would appreciate if you added a few words on how this looks like its been leaking since day 1.
Not sure what it is you're trying to get us to say here. Your shower receptor was apparently not properly constructed, but Goldstein is the only one willing to put a date on it, and even he can't swear his date's accurate.

Looks like a nice date, though, Goldstein.
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:02 AM   #11
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Those pictures are rough. Viewer discretion is advised.
Sorry about your mess! I think these installation practices are criminal. If I had to guess, this shower already leaked when it was being devised in the mind of the builder. The good thing is you don't have to think about salvaging anything and can tackle a total redo.
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Old 02-12-2019, 06:14 PM   #12
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The date thing is hilarious. I mostly use french in my daily life, so my brain thinks both ways sometimes. You should hear me speak english.
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Your written English is just fine, Patrick, and I guarantee your spoken English is a hellofa lot better than the second language spoken by at least 90 percent of the other participants here.
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Old 02-12-2019, 09:43 PM   #14
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Patrick, pour votre nouvelle douche il absolument faut monter une bonne membrane d’étanchéité cette foi-là. Avez-vous considéré la famille de produits par Schlüter? Ça coûtera très cher mais il s’agit d’un des meilleurs systems dans ce domaine. Bonne chance à vous! Le travail vous fera suer, mais il le vaut absolument.
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Old 02-12-2019, 10:12 PM   #15
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That'll be quite enough showing off for you, Herr Wolfgang! We have enough trouble keeping up with our visitors' projects in English, thank you very much.
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