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Unread 12-12-2009, 07:17 PM   #1
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EPA lead law

http://www.epa.gov/lead/pubs/renovation.htm

Starting April 22, 2010. I suppose it's time to think about this, if they can take up to 90 days to approve an application.

Anyone been certified?
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Unread 12-12-2009, 07:28 PM   #2
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When I saw lead it reminded me of this thread I started awhile back. Just want to share so the dangers of lead can be reiterated.

http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...=lead+exposure
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Unread 12-12-2009, 08:07 PM   #3
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Thanks for the heads up Matt. Oh, and I only work on less than 6 sqft areas.......

During investigations a few years ago, I found WA state laws regarding lead are pretty convoluted with many different agencies having different requirements or none at all depending on quantities.
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Unread 12-12-2009, 08:42 PM   #4
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So what's the fee? I've fallen asleep 9 times reading the regulation but never found the final $.

Is it $300 or $100 for single man op's? Or escallating as a method of discouragement to acheivement?
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Unread 12-12-2009, 08:48 PM   #5
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Not sure of the fee, but in that section I read this...

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The rule applies only in those states and tribes without their own authorized lead programs.
So, back to calling good ole WA state it seems.
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Unread 12-12-2009, 08:51 PM   #6
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If your just doing renovation, the fee is $300 every 5 years.
Since any remodel is larger than 6 ft.; pretty much anyone doing remodels is going to have to be certified right?

Great, one more way to tax us. This sucks. I'll get certified, and every person I know here won't. Then the EPA will concentrate on commercial sites only like OSHA does and then what's the point?

Lead in tile? (from the other thread) Never knew that one. I thought it was just silicosis to be afraid of.
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Unread 12-12-2009, 08:58 PM   #7
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I don't demo, that's the GC's job. Do I really need to read this? I gave it a quick skim.

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Unread 12-12-2009, 09:02 PM   #8
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It's mostly about dealing with lead paint in older homes, pre 1978. I see it regularly and already take appropriate precautions. Not sure what I'll do differently except be a few hundred lighter.
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Unread 12-12-2009, 09:08 PM   #9
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Renovation, Repair and Painting certificates are $300

Lead-based painting certificates are $550 *plus* $35 for each additional EPA jurisdiction after the initial

Combined RRP and Lead-based painting certificates are $550 with no additional EPA jurisdiction fee

For a more detailed explanation, the fee schedule is listed on page 7 of the EPA form #747-B-99-001 "Application and Instructions for Firms Applying for Certification to Conduct Lead-Based Paint Activities and Renovations"

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Unread 12-12-2009, 09:10 PM   #10
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Man, another fee(tax). Though, I wonder if I can list it on my estimates as being certified, just like I list my workers comp info, general liability info, and NTCA membership. By golly, if I follow the rules, I make sure the home owners get everybody else on the same page. It has worked a few times with including liability and workers comp with my estimates.
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Unread 12-12-2009, 09:13 PM   #11
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I will treat it like I do so many of their ridiculous blanket regulations. I'll follow it to the letter, of course.

I rarely do remodels where I disturb over six square feet of lead paint any more. Occasionally I'll need to do a hunnert or more of'em in a row on any given day, but weren't none of the individual jobs bigger than six feet.

Be happy to bill my customer that way, too, if they like.

And then the government pretends it doesn't understand why so many small businesses don't survive.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 09:20 AM   #12
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Unread 12-13-2009, 10:42 AM   #13
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I took the class and got certified, anyone working in the area where lead paint is has to be certified unless there is lead abatement. This law is going to hammer all legimate contractors by adding time and materials to the job. Doesnt matter who does the tear out, if you tile the walls you have to be certified and use tyvek type suits, booties mask gloves tak mats etc... everytime you come out of the room you have to take off suity and get another one to enter. HO will not be allowed to enter room under nay circumstance. We are all f%cked and the hacks will continue with business as usual. I am now looking into lead abatement courses so I can be certifed abate the lead and then it is business as usual

Certified Renovator course is $200.00.


Firm cert is $300.00 no testing.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 06:22 PM   #14
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HO will not be allowed to enter room under nay circumstance.
This might come in handy. HO driving you nuts? Just go hide in the safe room.
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Unread 12-13-2009, 11:06 PM   #15
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When the feds decide to do something about illegal immigration so we can all be on a somewhat level playing field, then maybe I'll start to pay attention to every asinine regulation, certification, that they dream up.

In the meantime, I'm more above board than 90% of my competition just by paying taxes, carrying insurance, warrantying my work and following industry standards.

If anybody asks, I employ cx's methods. I work very slowly...
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