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Old 09-12-2008, 02:51 PM   #1
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Master Bath Remodel

After having our house on the market for a few months and trying to keep it clean with an 18 month old baby and a dog we decided to stay where we are and just remodel, so we're starting with the master bath.
Depending on what the deflecto tells us we're either installing porcelain or ceramic on the floor. We're hoping to install in-floor heating as well and this is where I'm getting confused. Can I stall Ditra directly over the heating wire or do I need to pour SLC over the wire first and then install Ditra? Based on what I read on the company's website I can install Ditra directly over the heating wire but wouldn't it be wavy when going over the wires?
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Old 09-12-2008, 02:57 PM   #2
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Welcome, Kenny.

The Deflecto will make no distinction between ceramic tile and porcelain tile. Porcelain tile is ceramic. Only distinction Deflecto knows is between ceramic tile and natural stone products.

You must rely upon the manufacturer of your heating system to tell you how to cover the wires. All that I'm aware of require either a SLC or a layer of thinset to level out over the wires. Most don't even think you need an isolation membrane over the heating system, but I wouldn't install tile without one.

Once your heating system is covered with some sorta flat surface, you can install your Ditra or other tiling membrane over that.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Old 09-12-2008, 03:29 PM   #3
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Thanks CX. I wasn't thinking while writing, I meant porcelain or travertine. duh. The heating wire is about 1/8" think, is 1/4" of SLC adequate? I've read a few other posts and it seems 1/2" is the way to go...
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Gotta pick your products and then read everybody's instructions, Kenny.

Some of them SLC people ain't likely to go for that 1/4" thickness, specially not with the wires in there. But I don't know that. They do.

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Old 09-18-2008, 04:38 PM   #5
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How's this sound?

So we've ripped out the existing tile over greenboard, linoleum and underlayment. Our vanity is now sitting in our bedroom. We currently have 3/4" plywood exposed, here's the plan for the floor...

Add an additional layer of exterior grade 1/2" plywood-screwed but not glued
2 coats of SLC primer
MasterHeat heating wire
Plastic lath - if I can find any...
Another coat of SLC primer
1/2" of LevelLite SLC
Modified thinset
Ditra
Unmodified thinset-Laticrete 317, megabond or Ditraset if I can find any
Porcelain tile

Any see a problem with these steps, products, etc? Where can I find plastic lath? Duralath has been long discontinued, C-Cure Prolath 950 isn't in WA, I'm waiting for an email from Mapei on the Mapelath.
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:44 PM   #7
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See post #4. Kenny.

You gotta square all that with the manufacturers of the products you're using.

I don't think any heating system manufacturer nor SLC manufacturer is gonna go for that part about the lath over the heating mat.

I don't think your plan for the various layers of primer is gonna fit with the instructions of the SLC/primer manufacturer (most have time restraints on how long after the primer goes on and when you pour your SLC), but I don't know that for sure.

I hope some of the SLC users will weigh in here, but you need to be familiar with the manufacturers' instructions first anyway.

I like the extra layer of plywood.

I think the Ditra can go over the SLC with an un-modified thinset.

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Shower fixtures

Need some opinions on shower fixtures. My wife and I picked out a Price Pfister shower head from HD. Has anyone had any experience, good or bad, with this brand? Our plumber said it was crap compared to Moen.

Here's what we got
http://www.pricepfister.com/bath/Product/808-YP0K.aspx#
but without the tub spout

Any input is greatly appreciated.
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Update

I really don't have any questions at this point, just wanted to post my status, it will help to keep me motivated.

1. removed linoleum and underlayment, vanity, toilet, fiberglass shower pan and tile around tub surround and shower.
2. framed in new shower pan, installed kerdi drain, mudded shower floor
3. had plumber fix plumbing behind wall
4. installed recess it niche, kerdi'd tub surround, shower and curb (over hardi...doh...sparyed hardi down with water prior to thinset)
5. added 15/32" AC exterior rated plywood
6. glued and stapled 5/16" radiant positioning mats, installed heating cables and painted on primer
http://www.masterwholesale.com/details/1221515830.html
7. poured SLC (those RPM mats sure saved a lot of time worying about getting the SLC level, you just use the top of the mats as a screed. 150 sq ft, start to finish including clean up was just under 2 hours, first timer too )
8. installed Ditra
9. layed 16" X 16" porcelain tile on diagonal with 2" X 2" deco tile at every other 4 corner intersectoin, hope that makes sense.
10. tiled shower floor with 2" X 2" tiles

We're almost done tiling the shower walls, niche and tub surround. We hope to grout sometime next week and then install the shower enclosure. Will try and get pics up over the long weekend.
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Pictures

Here are some of the pictures we've taken along the way, I don't have the recent pics yet, hopefully soon.

Edit: downloaded Infranview, adjusted pic sizes...
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Almost finished pictures

We hope to put in the shower enclosure and finish caulking this weekend and maybe even take a shower in our new bathroom by Christmas. But hey, it's only taken 2 or 3 months so who's inna hurry?????
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Other remodel pics

This definitely was not the best idea but we decided to remodel the kitchen the same time as the master bath. What a mess!! The granite guy, our neighbor, installed granite in our front entryway while installing the kitchen counter tops. Looks pretty cool, the wife is in love with it! But now she's already added more on the honey-do list, installing hardwood floors.
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Kenny,

Everything looks great so far! Is that a slab of granite in the entry? Looks like it. It looks great!

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