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Old 11-07-2018, 09:54 AM   #3031
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Good deal Davy, figured as such since youíre the mud Meister. Glad to hear Iím not the only one to support the mason yards over the big boxes. Never tried paper backed, how do you like working with it Shawn?
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Old 11-07-2018, 07:55 PM   #3032
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Chris, I am new to mudding walls but I have used it for floors and pans for years. It is same as any other 2.5 lath but it already has 15lb felt paper attached to it so it one less step in the process. But really I don't think my supplier has any with out paper. I went in one day and said I need diamond lath and that is what they brought out but it is cheaper than I get it at homer. The paper has a logo on it so you can't accidentally put it upside down even though so many on here say it doesn't matter. I don't know the difference, so I put it way it was manufactured to be installed one less thing for me to worry about I guess.
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:25 AM   #3033
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Thatís a big shower Shawn, Iíd want my mud brought to me on that one. I like flashing the window framing with the same stuff for my niches, protecto wrap. Hopefully the window is installed plumb
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:41 AM   #3034
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Yes on the window. I did that one 2 years ago, in July, by myself, it was terrible. It took way longer than it should have which why I was so hesitant to try to mud a shower again, after doing the tub on this last one I realize I bit off more than I could chew for my first time. Crawl,walk,run right hell no I am going to sprint right out of the gate
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Old 11-08-2018, 06:59 AM   #3035
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Can't say I've ever seen a window set plumb.
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Old 11-08-2018, 09:36 AM   #3036
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Plumbish then . I don't remember it being a problem so I guess it was good. Or maybe not...
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Old 11-20-2018, 07:29 PM   #3037
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over these parts you can buy a bundle of 2.5 for 39.99 thats the cheapest i can find it for i usually stockpile it by the side of my garage. I have seen it for 55 a buncdle most of the time. Never buy it by the sheet its too expensive that way.
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:31 PM   #3038
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The old timers (including my older brothers) used to first string piano wire horizontally over the studs at eight-inch spacing, then tar paper, then chicken wire or lath. The piano wire kept the tar paper from going inward as the mud was forced through the lath (or chicken war).
I have been really thinking about this since you posted it and then couldn't find the post. Would it be possible to run say 2 pieces vertically in each stud bay instead of what you mentioned. Is the wire rigid enough for that?
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Old 11-20-2018, 08:44 PM   #3039
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John, wouldn't they still apply a scratch coat?
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Old 11-22-2018, 09:39 AM   #3040
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Oh yeah, it would still be scratched. Everything was in those days. Then sheetrock took over plastering, and the one-coat mud job was born.

I think lath is two flimsy in the vertical position.
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Old 11-22-2018, 10:57 AM   #3041
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Yeah, and if your studs are 16 inches apart and the lath is 27-28 inches wide, it won't reach the second stud. It doesn't make any sense to run the lath vertical on a 2 coat mud job.
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Old 11-22-2018, 01:40 PM   #3042
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Looking at lath is like tile porn for me, still. Fixing to mud up and tile a portable mailbox base for when the road plow takes mine out, which they do every year. My old spare got trashed after being hit a bunch of times.
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The old timers (including my older brothers) used to first string piano wire horizontally over the studs at eight-inch spacing, then tar paper, then chicken wire or lath. The piano wire kept the tar paper from going inward as the mud was forced through the lath (or chicken war).

I think you fellas misunderstood my question. Where John mentioned piano wire horizontally every 8in to give backing for the tar paper in between the stud bays. I was asking if you could run 2 or 3 pieces of piano wire vertically in between the studs for the same purpose, and still running the lath as it should be, horizontally.
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Old 11-22-2018, 06:54 PM   #3044
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Sorry, Shawn. I did misunderstand. I don't think you could get the wires tight enough to keep the lath from being flimsy. I do add nails thru the lath and paper to the edges of the studs which will tighten up the lath between the studs. But it still needs a scratch. Like this pic.
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Old 11-22-2018, 07:39 PM   #3045
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I don't think I have ever handled piano wire so wasn't sure about rigidity of it. Thought it might save time to run a few up and down rather than every 8 horizontally. I will go with the staples both sides of the stud thanks
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