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Old 05-12-2019, 02:14 PM   #46
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Self Leveler after Patched Floor

Iíve patched a hole in the concrete slab and need to use self leveler now. Do I have to wait a certain period to let the concrete cure before I use self leveler? It is about a 4íx5í area.
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Derek, let's keep all questions related to this project on this thread, so that questions and answers aren't duplicated, and the history is in one place.

A few questions.

1. Which SLC are you using?

2. How long has the concrete been down?

3. Are you using a shower tray, or a mud floor?

4. Is all of the patched area within the shower?
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1. Which SLC are you using?

Have not selected a SLC yet

2. How long has the concrete been down?

22 hours

3. Are you using a shower tray, or a mud floor?

Kerdi Shower Pan

4. Yes it is all in shower area.
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Old 05-12-2019, 04:44 PM   #49
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Well, the concrete should be cured before you prime it, so that may also depend on how thick it is. When you find one to use, it may be best to call the manufacturer technical support for an answer as to how soon it can be covered. (I've gone over new concrete with deck mud the very next day. )
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Old 05-14-2019, 07:34 PM   #50
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Ok. I am going to go with using deck mud instead of self leveler.

How do i calculate amount needed for a relatively flat fill? 50Ēx60Ēx2Ē

Also I would welcome opinions on the following questions:

-sand to Portland cement ratio
-best method for mixing sand and cement using mixing tub
-water amount
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Old 05-14-2019, 08:10 PM   #51
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You're still planning to use the Kerdi foam tray and are just planning to level the floor with deck mud, Derek? You have a depression in your concrete the size you indicate?

You got a photo of what you're looking at now?
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Old 05-16-2019, 08:42 PM   #52
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After some soul-searching and decided Iím gonna do mine a deck mud floor instead of the prefab floor. The cost of the prefab floor is pretty high and due to the size of my floor (4x5) there isnít a good prefab linear shower pan for that size.

1. I read that plumbing drain needs to be 2 1/8 inches away from wallboard on center. My current drain is 3 7/8 inches away from the stud. Does that mean I need to build out the wallboard 1 3/4 inches or can I make it work with current distance minus 1/2 inch wallboard?

2. For 5 feet length of shower floor should I shoot for a slope of more than 1/4 drop per foot?
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1. Sounds like a trick question to me. If what you read was information from your drain manufacturer, I'd put the drain center 2 1/8th" away from your wallboard. Or put your wallboard 2 1/8th" away from the drain.

2. The 1/4" per horizontal foot is a minimum requirement, Derek. I'd likely increase it a little in your application.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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So with a kerdi linear drain you canít have an extra inch on the backside that you could tile between drain and wall?
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We're talking about the Kerdi linear drain, yes?
The 2 1/8 in clearance is for placing the drain channel directly against the wall board. In other words, if you have the 2 1/8 in drain clearance, this enables you to set the drain body closest to the wall. You would do this, if you prefer this look. There is no reason to not do what you suggest. This means you will have a sliver of tile between drain and wall. If it is the look you desire, then go for it. Just make sure that you slightly tilt those sliver tiles towards the drain.

There are lots of different ways to place a linear drain with regard to wall clearance. And they give different looks. I'd mentally experiment with it a little before I made a decision. Myself, I prefer the look of the drain right against the wall.

Are you using large-format tile on the floor? If so, CX's recommendation of slightly increasing the pitch towards the drain might be a good idea. I think I have about 5/16 per foot. Due to the nature of LFT (especially one with a good grip) you get more water remaining on the shower floor than with small format tile and more grout lines. You'd have to have an extreme pitch to avoid this. It isn't a problem per se but will increase drying time. I give my shower floor a quick wipe with the squeegee after each shower. Gets rid of approx. 100-150 ml of water.
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Old 05-21-2019, 07:21 AM   #56
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To bring the wall out. Could I use 2Ē kerdi board on the wall? This would allow me to use drain location where it is and the drain to line up against the wall.
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Also another question. Any feedback on putting a niche on a walk thatís exterior to the house. I donít like the look of the niche being by the shower valve and would like it on the walk that is exterior to the house.

Opinions?
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Sure, you can bring out the wall a bit by using thicker foam board. Yes, you can place a niche on an exterior wall. I've done so twice. I am in North Texas and we get cold winters. I put a 3/4 in piece of foam board behind the niche, then concrete backer board, then tile, still giving me an R value of 5. I would advice to at least use some foam board behind the niche as well. Since you're using Kerdi board, you can forego the concrete backer and automatically get some insulation value. I personally don't like uninsulated sections of exterior walls. It's just bad practice.
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Thanks! Next phase...
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Replace Jacuzzi Tub with Shower

Any recommendations for bathroom wall tile not in shower: toilet room and sink wall? Itís going to cover the wall all the way to the ceiling.

Sorry not wall tile but recommended product to use for bathroom wall tile? Mastic or thinest or specific formulation?
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