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Unread 10-07-2016, 06:36 PM   #1
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Installing supply lines to 1920's radiators

I need to install new lines to a hot water radiator and plan on using pex-al-pex since it provides a oxygen barrier. CX has also pointed out that PEX is available with Oxygen Barrier (EVOH).

Majority of radiators are plumbed with the original 1" black pipe ; the radiator I'm working with was installed in the 60's using copper pipe run outside the walls and across the top of the floor.

Could use copper but thinking PEX would be easier to work through the wall cavity.

I'm a newb working with pex so can buy any required tools. Any recommendations?

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Unread 10-07-2016, 07:29 PM   #2
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Don't know how much of that plumbing you need to do, PC, but the tools for the crimp-on fittings can get a little pricey for some of those tube types. I've got tools for two brands of Pex-Al-Pex and for their 1/2" and 3/4" crimping tools I paid more than $300 for each set. If you're only gonna do a few fittings, you might take another look at the copper.
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Yep, about the cheapest crimping tools are $60, and that's just for the 1/2" and 3/4" lines.

My son, a plumber, spends upwards of $250 for his crimping tools. You'll also have to sweat on an adapter to switch from copper to pex.
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Unread 10-08-2016, 08:14 AM   #4
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Good info guys. I'll have to poke around that section of the house to see if I can get a run up there. Worst case, a little more plaster will have to go. Pulled 7000 pounds out so far* so what a few pounds more?

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I've got one of these http://www.lowes.com/pd/Apollo-PEX-O...p-Tool/3396092 works quite well and can be used on 3/8 to 1" Pex. It's a lot easier to crimp the clamps in tight spaces with these versus the old style tool.
And on the copper to Pex transitions the genuine sharkbite push fittings work awesome you'd want to check local code on that though.
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Thanks for the tip Charles. I'll check it out.
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PC! New house, or helping out a friend? Hope all is well.
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PC!!!!!!!!!! how you been young fellah? I see you are still tearing stuff up. lol
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Ran across this old thread showing our 1928 house at it worst. Figured I’d post one after the restoration of interior historic section was completed.

Maybe Pete and Mullet will stop by again!

Back half of house is a mess now but will be great once we wrap up the additions.

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Your trim man is almost as good as mine, PC.
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PC...You look like the "Terminator" in that pic!
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Thanks Chuck!
Whew, what a mess that all was. Felt like the place was a big tinder box.

Laz - The guy is the suit wasn’t me; one of my subs who was on stilts. I think I was still taller tho.

CX - I love doing the trim out work; the panel molding by fireplace were added before my time and just had some minor rework. I added new panel to to hall areaway on right side of picture when I opened up the passage to get headroom. Door was originally 74” high which gave me a headache (more than once ). Now it’s regulation 80” opening. Much better.

Mocked up several crown styles for Mrs. PC before we settled on her favorites. Four rooms in that section, each with unique crown styles. Came out great although the wavy walls and out of square corners were a bit of a challenge. Much much easier than doing stain grade trim work tho!
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Yeah, a fella can get away with a lot more in paint-grade trim work for sure, PC.
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Pc, I’ve used the Apollo pex crimpers for 12years+. Still in service . One of the best things you can do , is assemble as much as possible on the ground in front of you. And get the tight spots done as soon as possible. Sometimes getting enough gumption onto a fitting in awkward places feels near impossible. And if you don’t want to use shark bites for transitions, use brass threaded couplers. Good spot to change pipe diameters as well.
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