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Unread 08-23-2014, 11:35 AM   #1
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Access Panel In Kerdi Shower

So here's a new conundrum I haven't run across before...

The homeowner wants a removable access panel so he can get to the tub motor if it were to ever burn out. The problem is, the only place that can be done is inside the shower. I'm trying to think of something that would accomplish that, but still not leak.

I'm thinking maybe Kerdi fix the heck out of the perimeter joints? The other option is just to have an extra box of tile on hand and if that day ever comes, knock out a hole and patch it back in. The more I think about it, I lean toward the latter. I'm just curious if any of you guys have run into this and if so, what you did.
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Unread 08-23-2014, 11:52 AM   #2
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I can't see going to all the work of waterproofing a shower correctly only to put a designed hole in it. Why can't an access be put in from the tub? I would think it would be easier to design the tub to be removed down the road if they need to access it.
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Unread 08-23-2014, 01:30 PM   #3
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Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen... if the only place for an access is in the shower maybe the layout of the bathroom needs to be reassessed.
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Typing "access panel" into the Advanced Search feature and asking for Titles I find discussion of that question dating back at least to 2005, Brad. And I don't note a single useful suggestion.

Don't think it's something I'd wanna try, by you certainly can.
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Unread 08-23-2014, 02:28 PM   #5
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Make the front panel of the tub removable. SOmeone just posted a really cool picture of where they used chair rail as the framing as to hide the seam.
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Unread 08-23-2014, 05:16 PM   #6
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build a clever niche

maybe use 2 inch wedi as a frame to gasket to -- tile a thinner wedi panel -- put a huge bead of wedi sealant or sika, push into place until the caulking splooges to the egdes and into the seam, caulk the seam to full, tool it to clean
and grout with urethane -- tile an identical panel -- save for the dreaded motor issue -- bust out your panel and repeat method to tile in the new panel . . .

otherwise, dunno

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Get a box of tile. People don't use their tubs more than 2x a year.
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Unread 08-23-2014, 05:49 PM   #8
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Make the front panel of the tub removable. SOmeone just posted a really cool picture of where they used chair rail as the framing as to hide the seam.
You talking about this, Paul?

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Not an option..I would try and find another place for the access. How about cut a hole in the side of the tub..lol thats kinda the same thing.

Can the tub be lifted out? Access through the ceiling? Panel on Tub deck?turn the tub around?..there has got to be a better way.
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Thanks Nelson,

Hopefully now I'll remember who did it.
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Unread 08-23-2014, 08:57 PM   #11
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Making mountains out of mole hills. Just cut the right sized hole out of the backerboard. From the back side glue on a 1" wide flange and water proof it. Then just silicone a layer of 6 mil poly to the flange and insert your tiled panel. For service the poly gets cut out and a new piece glued in.

If you don't get my plan, just PM me and I'll try to explain it better.

In the past I've secured access panels like that with a couple of plastic wedges and grout. I leave a photograph of the open and closed panel with the house file, so the next guy knows which grout lines to cut out.
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til i read Peter's post, i was with the 'don't do it' crowd.
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Unread 08-25-2014, 09:24 PM   #13
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Well, Peter, that's got me thinking... I may be making mountains out of mole hills, but after reading what most of you had to say and thinking it over a little more, I'm thinking why risk it?

The plumbing connections will be accessible from an access tile on the front of the tub. No problem there. The placement and size of the motor make it impossible to access from the front though, unfortunately.

The tub is already set and will be undermounted with a granite slab for the top. The tub itself will be there to stay.

While it's not fun, instead of risking a leak for something that may never be an issue, I'm thinking just tile it in and remove and replace a few tile down the road if need be.

I spoke with the homeowner about it today and he seems ok with that logic...

If you have any pics of your method, Petr, they'd be interesting to see.

I don't know if I said it in the progress thread, but that whole bathroom was awesome, Nelson!
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Maybe I'm just missing something, but wouldn't Petr's method apply to a traditional pan? I'm not getting how poly on the back would help with a Kerdi shower...
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I'm not seeing how it works with a traditional shower construction method, Nate.
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