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Unread 01-10-2008, 08:07 PM   #1
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mud mixers

hello,just at the home depot looking for thinset mixer that hooks up to a drill.they have a 2 blade welder mixer,cross blade mixers,cheater beater mixer,dry wall compound paddle mixer..i dont see how effective the cross blade can be because the blades are pointed upwards,the 2 blade mixer seems to be round and smaller.the drywall paddle has two flat vertical blades. any recommendations.thanks jvl
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Unread 01-10-2008, 08:13 PM   #2
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Look for a ribbon mixer. A quick search of the forum here will bring up several threads on this subject. Here's one here from a few month ago. http://www.johnbridge.com/vbulletin/...t=ribbon+mixer
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Unread 01-10-2008, 09:25 PM   #3
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Mike's is the way to go. I've even used that in a wheelbarrow to blend and mix the "mud." The purists will scream....and want to use a hoe...but it works pretty well for me.
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Make sure you have a drill motor that will drive it.
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Unread 01-10-2008, 10:36 PM   #5
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I am using that ribbon mixer after seeing it recommended here - used with a large 1/2 industrial drill.

It works like butta'
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Unread 01-11-2008, 06:29 AM   #6
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Here it is.
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Unread 01-11-2008, 07:03 AM   #7
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Does that chart represent the bond strength of the thinset when mixed with the various mixers?

What is the reason for the variance?

I suspect it is air in the mix, but if you could confirm I would appreciate it.

Never mind, I read the other thread.

That is frightening, I have used both of the other types for years.
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Unread 01-11-2008, 08:17 AM   #8
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It is both air entrainment and in the case of the flat fluted paddle, it also reduces the particle size of the cement. As the particles get smaller they get denser and develop more "arms" to tie it all together. Firgure 1 is cement klinkers before water, figure 2 is after water was added. Kinda tells you why you should stay off the floor till it dries too when you see all those little arms.
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All of the mixing paddles you mentioned would do the job. But, I've found the ribbon mixing paddle works the best, along with good mixing drill. I'd recommend the Perles mixer and paddle.

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Unread 12-10-2008, 12:52 AM   #10
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how hard is it to clean the ribbon mixers?
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Spin it up in a bucket of water or spray it off with a high pressure hose....
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Unread 12-10-2008, 10:16 AM   #12
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hrmm good ideas! thanks
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I always keep a bucket of water to spin the thinset off the paddle. Keep that bucket of water around. You'll see why
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Perles

An FYI. The Perles company bailed back to Europe last spring and let US distributorship high and dry in the middle of the night. So any warranties will not (or cannot) be honored by US distribution. It is a great mixer and we do have some of their product left. The paddles are 5/8-11 thread. Rubi came out with replacement paddles that do fit onto the Perles mixers. We now brought on QEP mixer that was made similar to the Perles mixer but is yellow.

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I'm not an expert in the tiling field but based on the chart above, the ribbon mixer looks like it does a better job than the others but even the one with the lowest results still has a pretty high shear strength value. I can't see the chart while I'm typing this but I think it was around 430psi. Assuming a 12x12 tile, thats almost 62000lb at 100% coverage. I would think that would be more than enough for a majority of applications. Am I missing something with my interpretation of the results?
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