Commercial work question

[HS345]

Hi tile buddies.

Would you normally provide material take-offs with a bid/quote? Or would you work those up after you had a signed contract?

[CanyonTile]

Greg,
Wait till you have a signed contract. That is a hole card and sometimes folks will jsut take your numbers and then nickel and dime them with other contractors. I would know the numbers, but I wouldnt share till the client signed. Just my opinion..

[Houston Remodeler]

I agree with Gabe.

When bidding commercial work or Texas sized homes, I make an excel spread sheet with a few pages;

1- tiles by room listed on each surface separately
2- tiles grouped together from different rooms to get aggregate
3- tiles listed by supplier

The sheets are usually linked to each other from the first page to auto correct the other pages. This works pretty well, but needs editing when tiles are changed.

Commercial rooms are usually numbered, so we add a separate column for the room number, in Texas sized homes we use the room name.

[nctileseller]

My takeoff quantities and info are proprietary, and belong to me. When you contract with me to do the work, you've paid for the right to see those figures. Until then, and NEVER before then, those numbers belong to me.

Now having said that, some GC's will say on the phone that my bid $$$ looks way too high or way too low. They'll ask for a quantity to compare to what they have.nonononononono. If they'll give me what THEY have, I'll confirm or deny that their number is comparable to mine.

Regards,
NCTileseller

[ceramictec]

Originally Posted by HS345

Would you normally provide material take-offs with a bid/quote?

I wouldn't and don't provide my take offs when I did commercial work.
the project estimator should have already done their take off and know it.
if your supplying tile & labor it shouldn't matter to them.

if the owner is supplying the material then there is no way around it
and all shops bidding the work will have to comply.

[tiletime56]

never, if you get the job then you share info [commercial or residential]