Cross Line Lasers - whats todays consensus?

[tilelayer]

I have a pls 2, i wish I had a pls 180 but i bought mine for 80 bucks on craigslists years ago so i cannot complain. I bad thing about the pls 2 is when you need a plumb line 8 ft and you cannot pull the laser far enough, the further the laser is from the wall the further the plumb line shoots up the wall.

[Brad Denny]

After Gueuze's post I am now curious about the Leica. The local supplier we were using for the PLS dropped them and added the Leica. When I went in to buy a PLS, the Leica display just looked "toyish", so I resorted to Amazon. I'd love to hear a personal review if anyone has one. The PLS seem to be extremely well made, I wonder how well the Leicas take a beating.

[cwilde72]

The 6" of height adjustability on the Stabilia is a pretty cool feature IMO. Price is pretty darn good too!

[jwmezzanotte]

Dewalt and a laser pole working good for me

[ob1kanobee]

I'd vote for the Leica. It reminds me of those pods from War Of The Worlds. And as G man said, they invented this stuff. Must use alien technology.

[Tiger Mountain Tile Inc]

I don't know what kind of break we could get on three of them, but I might be convinced to pick one up as well.

[eblumer]

Originally Posted by stonetooling

We plan on moving them quickly so we don't plan on putting them up on our main site. Happy to work out pricing for anyone looking to take one off our hands.

What kind of pricing would that be? I "need" a new laser, the one you're clearing out looks good to me.

[Topspin]

Originally Posted by Jim

I might be convinced to pick one up as well

You talkin about the Leica or the yellow Stabila?

The Leica is funny looking, sorry Ben, but its too Salvador Dali looking to me.

[Topspin]

Actually, I don't care what it looks like, just so it's accurate, doesn't break and is easy to use. So the Leica is a possible. But I heard that Leica licenses its name to divisions that have consumer type products - to be made by other companies. Unlike the old days when Leica meant Leica. Did some looking but can't see where its made and by whom, if not Leica.

Features that are important to me: (in order)

Accuracy - Like the 1/8" in 30 ft. And a thin, sharp line
Durability - need it to last at least 3 yrs or more of nearly everyday use
Price $100-$225
Usability -

The wider the degrees the better, but it doesn't take much more effort to turn it for a wider sweep of the room.

Would like vertical, horizontal, and both as options - when you want a horizontal but don't want to be blinded with the vertical every time you reach for a wedge.

At least has the tripod screw hole at the bottom so I can put it on my pole and magnet laser holder. But better yet would love an adjustable laser holder that has micro adjustment. Probably that's just an accessory.

Smaller rather than larger

Don't need: outdoor capability, distance over 30', rotating, adjustable laser (should work outta the box), points, plumb dots,

I'm liking the accuracy of the Leica but not the look. The reputation and following of the PLS. Not many seem to mention the Dewalt and I could gamble on another Bosch again . . . well maybe no. I think I'll try something new.

If a number of us find something we'd all get, maybe we could get a quantity discount? Hmmmmm

[tilemanct]

Josh,
Does the HVL have dual vertical beams?

[Houston Remodeler]

That's a good list to work from Kevin

[jwmezzanotte]

Im not much for brand loyalty, but i do have a few dewalt tools ive purchased over the last couple years. Pretty impressed with them. I have the crosshair laser i posted a pic of, and a rotating self leveling laser and receiver that I use for placing concrete slabs. Both work well.

If I found a better deal I would switch brands no problem. Just commenting that I have had no problems with the dewalt, if that helps anyone.

[Houston Remodeler]

I bought my (at the time Robotoolz) Porter Cable laser model rt-7690-2
October 2005. Its still working flawlessly. I paid a lot more than the $319 listed on ebay.

For the money the other guys are talking about, I'd buy this one without a doubt. Plus the remote is kick a** and so is the case.

Accuracy...
Level: +/- 1/8" @ 100'
Plumb: +/- 1/4" @ 100'
Laser Range: 600' w/ Detector
Self Leveling Range...
Level: ±6°
Plumb: ±6°
Line Dither/Scan Mode: 6 Line Lengths (3° to 180°)
Spin Mode RPM: 350, 600,1200
Plumb Alignment Range: ±2°
Laser Diodes: Class III, 635nm
Power Supply: 4 "D" Batteries or AC Power Adaptor
Tripod Mount: 5/8"x 11
Features:
Pendulum Lock protects pendulum during transportation and storage for added durability.
RF remote control range is a 300' radius and controls all laser functions.
Level and plumb laser beams are independent with simultaneous operation.
Laser and plumb self-leveling range is ±6°.
Level and plumb Line Dither/Scan mode for high beam visibility.
Out-of-level indicator.
Laser beam locator with fine/course resolution selection.

[Jc0379]

Here ya go Dave and all beams go 360 degrees
Pacific Laser Systems introduces the HVL 100 multi-purpose laser line tool.

The HVL 100 is the tool of choice for demanding remodeling projects.

Ideal for laying out kitchen cabinets, bath or shower tile, wallpaper, electrical, and HVAC jobs.

The fully self-leveling HVL 100 sets up easily and provides a 360 degree line of reference three times – horizontal and vertical with 90 degree layout. That means ceiling, walls and floor are all aligned with one easy-to-use tool and with the PLS SLD detector, its utility is enhanced for exterior layouts too.

Accurate to within an +/- 1/8 of an inch at 60 feet, and effective at up to a 100 feet, the HVL 100 is versatile and dependable for a variety of layout tasks.

Mount the tool to the PLS Elevator Tripod or the PLS Wall Bracket.

The PLS HVL 100 tool comes complete with carrying case, heavy-duty wall bracket, layout targets, operating manual and rechargeable NiMH batteries. The PLS HVL 100 system also includes a SLD laser detector. PLS Lasers are designed by contractors for contractors.

Pacific Laser Systems - the professional standard
PLS HVL 100 SPECIFICATIONS:

Accuracy: +/- 1/8" @ 60 Feet (+/- 3mm @ 20 meters)
Working Range: +/-100 Feet (+/- 30 meters) (outdoor w/detector)
Leveling Range: +/- 4 Degrees
Mounts To PLS Elevator Tripod And PLS Wall Bracket
Power Source: 4 NIMH Rechargeable Batteries
Weight: 4lb. 6 oz. (2kg) including batteries
Dimensions: 8 inch x 3 ¾ inch x 11 ½ inch (20cm x 10cm x28cm)

[Topspin]

Yeah that HVL 100 does look good. I'll put that on my list right after getting my wife a Bentley and me getting my McLaren F1.