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Old 12-08-2018, 03:02 PM   #1
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Chalet Retreat center bathrooms remodel

We are starting a new project at Mt Baker in Washington. The Firs Chalet is a 1950s grand inverted ship shake covered building with amazing views and a ski resort next door. It is owned and operated as a retreat center by The Firs in Bellingham, WA.

The project is the complete gut of the two shared guest bathrooms. The rooms are simple 2 toilet stalls, room drain, two showers with a dressing area on one of the floors and an 8' dual sink floating vanity. There is a single exit door to the carpeted hallway. During the project we will demolish to the studs, repair/replace plumbing and structure. New wall board, water proof the floor, tile floor, wall and showers, install new fixtures (toilets, sinks and showers), repair/reroute venting and lighting.

We plan to start the work after the snow departs in early summer 2019. Anyone interested in helping out feel free to contact us. We could use experienced tile engineers. Rooms provided during remodel.

The first help we need is with the Deflecto calculation. The structure consists of large glue lam arches in the shape of an inverted ship with beams that act as floor joist between the arches for the 3rd and 4th floors where the bathrooms are located. The beams are 5.25" x 19.25" x 27' on the 3rd floor and 5.25" x 14.25" x 18' on the 4th floor. The beams are 96" on center. The floor boards are 3.5" x 5.5" T/G Fir. We would appreciate any help we can get in calculating the deflection and defining the required subfloor.

The plans for the finished floor are to create a water proof room as much as possible. The 3rd floor bath is directly above the kitchen. We would like to avoid unplanned moister in the dinner. Schluter Ditra with kerdi seams and kerdi up the walls at the base boards. Showers will be kerdi on wallboard or kerdi board. Floor tiles have not been decided, but fewer and small grout lines will be appreciated over the years of use. Tiles up the wall to 5' for durability. Any input on water proofing is also appreciated. We are not sure what to do around toilet and center room drains.

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Old 12-08-2018, 06:43 PM   #2
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Welcome back, Diane.

I'd recommend you hire the services of a competent structure engineer to have a look at that structure to give you a reading of the design deflection of those floors. Doesn't sound like something you want to guess at if you are gonna be liable for the installation.

My opinion; worth price charged.

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Old 12-09-2018, 11:29 AM   #3
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Hi CX,

Glad to be back. It's so nice to have a group of people you can trust as you head off into the unknown.

Budget is tight (surprise!) but we will search for an engineer that can help us. The important design decision here is water proof floors in case of over flowing toilets or showers due to clogged drains. Ditra and porcelain seems the best way to go if the structure can handle it. If not we need to find an alternative.

Floor is 24'x7.5'. Vinyl is an option but needs to be single sheet (8' wide). Can we use Kerdi membrane under? Will call Schluter on Monday since there are question on how to handle the penetrations through the floor at the toilets.

Diane and Paul
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