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Unread 11-04-2010, 09:29 AM   #61
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Awesome, thanks for the help again!!!! Need to find a way to send you some of that banana bread!
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Unread 11-04-2010, 09:35 AM   #62
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Richard, have you tried cutting a series of lines on the back of the tile, around the hole location? That's how I make odd cuts. Just keep making little cuts and use small nippers to get where you need to be...
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Unread 11-04-2010, 07:57 PM   #63
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Got the corner taken care of and mixed the perfect about of thinset for what I needed to finish up! I'm sure you pros can do an entire shower in a day, but man, this has been a lot of stuff to learn!!!!

Ripped out 3 layers of kerdi plus the extra thinset, and put two strips of kerdiband over the corner (overlapping of course) and it flattened out perfectly. I had to add some thinset to the back of the tile between the corner of the wall and the edge of the bench, but it's less than 1/8" so it shouldn't be a problem. Thanks so much for your help Paul, I could have probably ground down the back of the tile, but now I know that I did it the right way, and that's half the benefit in DIY, right?

Ed, I have to put a hole in the middle of a tile so I think a hole saw is the only thing that can work unfortunately. I know what you mean by cutting lines to the edge of a curve and then breaking them off, and I was hoping that the lines would be so I could use that method, but they don't. So I guess $20 more, not that big an issue compared to $7500 I was looking at as a bid before I started.

Should be able to finish up the lower tiles tomorrow and then I'll work on the niche and the mosaic band.
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The cut is for the diverter there? I'd be making that w/ a series of shallow back-cuts. I wouldn't be buying a hole saw for a single cut.
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Unread 11-04-2010, 09:55 PM   #66
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Hi Richard, you can make the cut with an angle grinder with a diamond blade.
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Unread 11-05-2010, 09:06 AM   #67
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Mike:
One problem is I don't have an angle grinder. I have a drill adapter for a 5" cutoff wheel that might hold a grinding wheel. A diamond grinding wheel seemed to be the same $20-25 range as the hole saw and I'll have to put a hole in another tile for the shower faucet later down the road anyway.

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I'm using a Felker TM75 which doesn't seem to have the ability to move up and down for the back cuts. I guess I'm just not understanding really...
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Unread 11-05-2010, 09:23 AM   #68
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Richard,

You want an angle grinder. You need an angle grinder. Once you get an angle grinder you'll wonder how you lived without it.

If you've got a Harbor Freight near you, you can pick one up for just about twenty bucks, Homer has them for about twenty-five or thirty. Variable speed would be better, but costs more, of course.

Shower looks good, BTW.
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Unread 11-05-2010, 09:25 AM   #69
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Richard,

If you haven't made your purchase for a diamond hole saw and can wait a few days you might want to check out this eBay seller. I have purchased a number of their "economy" hole saws and for a DIYer they work perfectly. (They just won't cut as many holes as a professional model.)

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Oh - ok I don't actually know that saw. Just looked it up (I know it's a workhorse of the industry, but I never used one). I see the head doesn't plunge. My Ryobi saw plunges - that's how I do it.

I just draw the circle on the back, and then make a series of cuts all around. A couple cross-cuts thru the middle and it'll all fall right out. A little nipping to clean up the edge and you're in biz-niss.

Angle grinder is good, but wanting water for better blade life plus needing some good way of holding the tile down (both admittedly easy problems to fix, esp if you have a helper) - I find it easiest to just use the one tool I already have running, rather than finding a helper and dirtying another tool for just one cut.
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Unread 11-05-2010, 10:07 AM   #71
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Angle grinder, no water. Clamped (not TOO tightly) to a piece of carpet laid on a work bench.

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Come on - I can do this, so you know it ain't rocket science.

BTW, if you do go the hole saw route, I took Brian's recommendation and ordered some from that eBay seller. Good deal.
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I also did an absolutely perfect hole for my big valve using our angle grinder and the technique in the liberry. Mr. Wendy and I switched off, with one cutting and one holding the tile and spraying water from a squirt bottle. Took about 10 minutes. If you can afford it, the thing about a grinder compared to a hole saw is that it is the best thing for cutting hardie (mind the dust) and making quick notches in tile. It will work on a variety of hole sizes. With different wheels it can also grind mortar off a surface or sharpen your garden tools. We also used ours to make cuts in cultured stone for our fireplace.
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We gonna have to rename you the Hand-Tool Diva, Wendy?
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Somehow, when you put it that way, it sounds kind of dirty...

Seriously though, if there's one thing I've learned in 20 years of tearing apart and putting together my house, it's that having the right tool is key to success. I usually carp about the money, but it saves so much in time and aggravation. And unlike a pricey faucet, a tool will be good for more than one project.

I just realized my shower trim cost more than my table saw. Ack!
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Well, I have an angle grinder, a diamond wheel, a 1 3/8" diamond hole saw and 7 split tiles!!! This hole is getting very frustrating to make. I've tried the circle way, I've tried the pie way, I've tried holes around the edges and then the circle way around it, I've even tried using my hands to make plunge cuts with the tile saw.

Should I use one of the split tiles? Glue it or just let the thinset hold it together?

Should I find a local tile guy and let him give it a try? I'm running out of extra tiles...
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