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Unread 09-14-2007, 06:17 PM   #211
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would that be ditra-sound? It is on their uk site. looks kind of like easymat?
No, Jason, different product. Bryan's talking about a new, taller profile in the same general shape as Ditra. One of our attendees (Maybe sgrandjean?) dubbed it Uber Ditra and I think Herr Schluter would be wise to adopt the name.

Came from their testing of using doubled layers of regular Ditra. Could turn out to be the ultimate uncoupling system. Gonna use a lotta DitraSet, but thinset's still a cheap part of the overall installation, eh?

Ya know, this thread makes a fella wonder how we ever got along without digital cameras, don't it?
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Unread 09-14-2007, 06:25 PM   #212
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Unread 09-14-2007, 06:32 PM   #213
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One thing I forgot to ask at the seminar. If you can't get the Ditra-Set, what is a good unmodified morter to substitute? Custom, Mapai, Bonsel, etc.....
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Unread 09-14-2007, 06:39 PM   #214
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Good idea, Laz. We need like a Ditra/Kerdi "Greatest Hits" list. BTW has anyone else found it difficult to bend over and move around since our outing. I feel like that pig in the smoker. If Schluter is listening, I went out and bought a roll of Kerdi, two boxes of KerdiBand, a KerdiDrain, and one tube of KerdiFlex as soon as I got back. Don't know what I'm gonna do with it, but it's ready to go.
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Unread 09-14-2007, 06:40 PM   #215
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I thought the thicker ditra should be called belgian ditra. It looks very much like a belgian waffle.
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Ha! Deep Pocket Ditra!
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Unread 09-14-2007, 06:42 PM   #217
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They woulda tole you that each of those manufacturers makes a suitable dry-set mortar you can use, Laz. In fact, I remember for sure that they did tell you 'zackly that during at least one classroom session. Prolly one of the times you were sleepin', eh?

Better you should just find you some DitraSet, though. Did you get the name and number of your rep while we were there? He's gonna know where you can get holt of it locally. Pretty soon you'll never, ever hafta buy more than one kind of thinset, and maybe a little "leche" for all your tile work.
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It was my understanding that Schluters best "other" (other than Ditraset) test results have been with Mapie's Kerabond. I personally would include Laticrete's 317 as a very good dryset/unmodified too.
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CX~~ Yeah, well my eyes WERE kinda at 'half-mast' after that lunch. But, in fairness, I looked around and I wasn't the only one......!

As to my rep, I gave him my card and he promised to get in touch....but, for the life of me, I can't remember his name. SouthEast Texas is his territory. Guess I'll have to call in and get the info.....Got a real nice $4000 shower I'm planning to Kerdi. 4X4 but 10 ft. high! How about some advice......can I just Kerdi up to the showerhead or do I need to go to the ceiling?
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Unread 09-14-2007, 06:55 PM   #220
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I don't think I'd feel the need to go all 10' Unless they were gonna hose the thing down everytime to the ceiling
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Unread 09-14-2007, 06:57 PM   #221
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Using the Kerdi system doesn't change any of the general rules, Laz, you can still just waterproof up above the shower head a little. Unless you're fixin' to do steam, of course, in which case you'd want to drop the ceiling anyway, eh?

My opinion; worth price charged.

Young Trask is fast this evening, eh?
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Unread 09-14-2007, 07:06 PM   #222
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Kelly --

I have one good thought during the entire trip, and you have to go and give the credit to Scott? Tell Peter I only want $.01 / sq. m. in licensing fees.

And I was at Home Despot today (lucky me -- they didn't have the 3/4" FIP to sweat copper elbow I needed) but I checked every version of thinset they had for claims of meeting ANSI standards. Every one had the pertinent standard listed.

Drysets met A118.1 (A118.4 and A118.11 when mixed with admix)
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Modified met A118.4 and A118.11 when mixed with water
VersaBond
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So much for that theory.

Of course, I have no way to measure what's actually in the bag.
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JDM~~

Yeah, I was in the local HD today as well. Checked out the Versabond and it read "Meets or exceeds ansi 118.4" or something like that...... Darn, I thought this might make a good thread......but meybe it's OK after all...
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Unread 09-14-2007, 07:20 PM   #224
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I have one good thought during the entire trip, and you have to go and give the credit to Scott? Tell Peter I only want $.01 / sq. m. in licensing fees.
Sorry about that, Jeff. When there's forty-odd bowdarkskulls all together inna room like that, they kinda all start runnin' together, eh?

But I promise to remember come time to negotiate the fee for naming rights.

And speakin' of bowdarkskulls, how 'bout y'all start a thinset thread for all these technical questions. Unless, of course, y'all have some thinset pichers from CTEF to post.

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Oh, but whilst we're muddying up this one, Scott (new Headmaster at CTEF) went to the local Lowe's after the Thinset/ANSI/Bag Marking discussion and looked at all their MAPEI stock. Not an ANSI standard number in sight, says he. I swear the Custom stuff at my Homer's still has markings, but now I gotta go look again when I get home.
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Unread 09-14-2007, 07:22 PM   #225
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Steve,

Remember Dave Gobis stated that some manufacturers employ "bag" or "fulfillment" operations. No telling what is actually in there no matter what the bag says.

Kinda like a peach cannery putting different store or brand labels on the same can.

Lodepot and other boxes buy commodity excess.
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