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11-22-2013, 07:40 PM
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Tile Contractor
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Location: Columbia,SC
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Did Ray Charles set that crap?
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11-22-2013, 09:50 PM
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Pondering retirement daily
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Houston Texas
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The famous tiling duo of Ray Charles and Hellen Keller
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Paul 1
For when DIY isn't such a good idea...
Houston TX area Kitchen & Bath Remodeling

http://CabotAndRowe.com
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11-22-2013, 11:21 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Southern Illinois
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I imagine they'd have done quite a bit better than that.
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11-25-2013, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NW Arkansas, Ozark Mountains
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I saw a new "waterproofing method" a few weeks ago. I was called in to give my opinion as to whether or not the shower would leak. Probably good they did it at this point, since there was no tile installed yet. Sorry, I didn't take any pictures, I was too busy scratching my head as I did the demo.
The installer started with a concrete curb and pre-slope, which was good, but then he used 6" wide galvanized roof flashing bent into the corners and at the wall-floor junction, over the pre-slope. Then he covered the slope and flashing with one coat of Redgard, slopped over the clamping drain and weep holes, no tie-in to the drain, and nothing at the wall protrusions, a couple of which were body sprays at the 3' level.
Next was 1/2" Durock on the walls installed with sheetrock screws, many of which were sticking up 1/8", and probably a half-dozen tubes of white latex caulking on the seams, followed by another coat of Redgard on the walls. Another sloped bed of mud was put in with the required birdbaths and backslopes. For some reason he also put Durock over the concrete curb with concrete nails. Still haven't figured that one out yet.
The bench wasn't installed yet, and there was no discussion of recessed soap boxes, and there was no waterproofing around the 2'x2' window. I also found a few pieces of scrap Durock in the final mud bed, guess he was trying to save a few pennies. All this on a $500,000 home.
Total cost: $2,100.00, and not a single tile had been installed yet. Installer said he had done a bunch of them that way on some high-end houses. I don't even know how he could get the tile to lay flat with all the excess caulking globbed up over the seams.
All of it in a dumpster now.
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The top ten reasons to procrastinate:
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11-25-2013, 05:13 PM
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Texas Tile Contractor
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Beaumont, Texas
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Absolutely amazing that people actually do this $hit. I suppose they just figgure that ...."Well, seems logical to me..." without any training or schooling in the proper way to waterproof something.
I shake my head in wonderment and pity the poor homeowner, but, I'm happy that this keeps me in business.......
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11-25-2013, 09:14 PM
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Hmmmmm
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Boise, ID
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Not really a "worst job" but interesting anyway...
Was looking at a bath redo, went into basement to get an idea on plumbing location and spied this wonderful specimen. I think the folks thought it was weird that I wanted photos...
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Silicone (not silicon) Sealant Ranger
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11-25-2013, 09:28 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NW Arkansas, Ozark Mountains
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That should be moved to the "Pic of your best biology experiment" thread.
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11-25-2013, 11:03 PM
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builder, anti-builder, rebuilder -- Retired Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: oahu
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I think the folks thought it was weird that I wanted photos...
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"the road to hell is paved with osb, mastic, pre-mixed latex 'grout' or 'thinset', "
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11-25-2013, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Shuswap BC
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You wanting pictures was the weird part?????? not the mushroom growing in the basement. Did you pick it ? lol
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11-26-2013, 12:58 AM
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Hmmmmm
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Boise, ID
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I restrained myself, I really wanted too. But after all, it was their fungus, so I didn't ask.
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Silicone (not silicon) Sealant Ranger
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11-26-2013, 07:26 AM
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Tile Contractor
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Columbia,SC
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Sooooo, Do you think they got some sorta hydroponic mushroom farm stashed between the floors???? What else they go growing around there?
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11-26-2013, 07:32 AM
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Ms. Makita
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Maple Bay, BC (On beautiful Vancouver Island!)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter
I restrained myself, I really wanted too. But after all, it was their fungus, so I didn't ask.
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11-28-2013, 11:07 AM
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Tile sales/installation central WI
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Marshfield, WI
Posts: 1,724
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This bathroom tile job was installed with mastic over particle board in bathroom. 6 months ago.
The installer wont call back the home owner.....imagine that.
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Success is a ladder that cannot be climbed with your hands in your pocket.
NTCA Proud Member
ICRI certified moisture technician
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12-02-2013, 10:50 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Austin, TX
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I'm a DIYer, but I do my research before I start. Some of the people I know don't seem to bother.
Yes, that is DITRA used in a shower, and yes, he doesn't seem to have checked the boxes for variance in the colors of travertine before he started sticking them to the wall.
No word on whether or not he keyed in the divots or if he used modified or unmodified.
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Karl - Homeowner, DIY-er
"It’s not enough to be aware of the domain you’re working in, you need to understand it. Noticing things and being curious about how they work is the single most common trait I see in creative people. Once you can break the components down, you can put them back together into something brand new." - Seth Godin
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12-02-2013, 10:54 AM
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ReTile
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Mesa, AZ
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That looks like Ditra...
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