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Unread 08-29-2006, 11:49 PM   #1
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Blade dressing?

Did a search, and found the usual cinder block/paver tricks. So I thought I'd throw this out and see if anyone here has tried it or even heard of it. Some of the guys in my area have started making grout pucks out of thier leftover grout. They just pour it into the cutoff bottom of a soda bottle and let it set up, then just pop it out. I haven't tried it yet myself, but these guys are saying it's the best dressing stone they'd ever had, and it's pretty much free. Whadaya think?
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Unread 08-30-2006, 02:24 AM   #2
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Never heard of it, but hey....if it works....

I'll hafta give that a try.
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Unread 08-30-2006, 05:29 AM   #3
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Pardon my ignorance,
what is a grout puck?
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Unread 08-30-2006, 12:30 PM   #4
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Michael --

A diamond tile blade has many layers of sharp diamonds embedded in its edge. As the edge wears, the old worn diamonds fall out, exposing new sharp ones.

Sometimes a blade gets dull because the surface is covered with worn diamonds. In that case, dressing the blade by making a number of cuts through a concrete brick, or a special dressing stone will expose the fresh diamonds.

The suggestion here is to salvage leftover grout by making a "puck" and then using it as a dressing stone.
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Unread 08-30-2006, 12:33 PM   #5
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I thought it was for dressing cut tile edges myownself.
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Unread 08-30-2006, 03:03 PM   #6
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A piece of granite, bluestone, sandstone,or a makita slicing off the face of the blade, would prolly work better,seems like.
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Unread 08-30-2006, 03:13 PM   #7
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Hey! A Makita what??

Granite? I always thought a fella wanted to cut something realatively soft to dress his diamond blade, Stoner. Granite don't hardly qualify as soft, do it?
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Unread 09-28-2007, 02:41 PM   #8
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Using a dressing stone on a diamond blade

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What is the proper procedure for using a dressing stone on a diamond wet saw blade?
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Unread 09-28-2007, 02:47 PM   #9
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I hope you get some good replies to this. I seem to have a hard time figuring this out too.

However, there is a good article in the liberry called Blade Sharpening, I think.

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Unread 09-28-2007, 02:58 PM   #10
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Set the stone (a brick will also work) on your saw table and run the blade into the stone a couple times. I usually only go part way thru so I won't cut the stone into pieces.
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Unread 09-28-2007, 04:47 PM   #11
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Jeff,

Like Jerry said.

I use CMU. In this case, 1/2 of a 4" solid block.

If I am doing a lot of cuts in porcelain, I do it as required when the chip-outs start to occur, usually 100 or so cuts.

Keep in mind, a tile saw 'grinds' the cut, where as a table saw or any wood type saw removes the stock as it cuts.

Make a slow, steady cut and you should be fine if your saw is properly aligned.
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Unread 09-28-2007, 05:01 PM   #12
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My question is: How much does this really help? My understanding is that it brings out more diamonds to be exposed. If the blade itself is worn and smaller from use the number of exposed diamonds has to be smaller anyway. Or are the diamonds more densely packed as the blade wears? I really don't know and that's why I'm axin. From a practical point of view I did similar action with a factory Dewalt blade and it seemed to help but when I went to new blade it was like night and day .
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Unread 09-28-2007, 05:13 PM   #13
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When you went to a new blade and it was like night and day it was because the old blade was maybe worn out.
It has been my experience that blades in almost all cases have lasted until there were no more diamonds on it.
If a blade needs replacement sooner than that something was wrong.
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Unread 09-28-2007, 08:08 PM   #14
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If the blade itself is worn and smaller from use the number of exposed diamonds has to be smaller anyway. Or are the diamonds more densely packed as the blade wears?
What happens is the diamonds wear down, until there's not much diamond showing above the metal matrix of the blade rim. Cutting into a dressing stone (personally, I use patio blocks), is hard enough that it'll wear down the metal, but soft enough that it WON'T wear down the diamond, thereby showing more diamond, and "sharpening" the blade.
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I think this is the article Bryan was referring to in our whirl-famous Liberry, Jeff. 'Splain's it pretty well, I think.
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