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Unread 11-13-2007, 04:14 PM   #1
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Thumbs up First Project completed.....Now #2

Just wanted to post a big thank you to all who have posted on this site. I can't tell you (well maybe that's what I'm doing...) how much help this was for my bathroom tiling experience.

not sure how to post pictures....but with everyones help here, the shower turned out beautifully (if I do say so myself).

Thanks again everyone!!

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Unread 11-13-2007, 04:32 PM   #2
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Post them pichers...
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Unread 11-13-2007, 04:48 PM   #3
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Mastic in Shower debate

Okay, first thing first. I know a lot of people on this site hate the word mastic.......as it usually comes out in a "mmmmmmmmm....." type of phrase.

HOWEVER.....I wanted to share with you a little experiment that has lasted the better part of a year and a half involving the M word (mastic).

Before I started tiling my shower, I wanted to try working with this stuff ( dry run). So I took a cinder block, and a 4x6" piece of tile and troweled on the mastic, made my ridges, and set the tile. Easy - off to work I went.

Then I read all the horror stories of mastic use in showers.
Crap I said.

Well.....that tile and block I mentioned...have been sitting out side for a year and a half in the sun, rain, snow and everything else this British Columbia weather throws at us. After this last summer (stupid wet), I figured that tile should put off no problem.

Well.....I bent my scraper, and broke a tiny piece of the tile off.....but that tile is NOT coming off that block.

I used Mapei's Mastic, and I'm so impressed with the results....using in the upstairs bathroom next.

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Unread 11-13-2007, 05:00 PM   #4
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would be good if bathroom walls were made of block, but they aren't
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Unread 11-13-2007, 05:10 PM   #5
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Cement is cement ........right?

whether it's in a block shape, or in the form of Cement backer board....results should be the same......then again...maybe I am stepping out on a ledge with that one...
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Unread 11-13-2007, 05:18 PM   #6
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try wrapping that piece of block with kerdi and un-modified thinset. See which piece has more mold on it. Guaranty the tile will stick to the block and have no mold.
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Unread 11-13-2007, 05:19 PM   #7
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Welcome, Tiling. Please give us a first name to use, preferably in a permanent signature line.

While not all organic tile adhesives (mastic) are created equal, there is no doubt that some of the newer Type 1 products can stand up to wet environments quite well without failing due to re-emulsification. And there is a publsihed industry standard for the use of such products.

But you do also hafta consider some other issues, such as failure to dry behind impervious tiles set over waterproof membranes and mold issues to name just a couple. And even the higher cost could be a factor in many cases.

Still a lotta reasons to use good cementitious thinsets in showers as far as I'm concerned, but there's no doubt the industry is changing.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Unread 11-13-2007, 05:43 PM   #8
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there is probably a lot of variables, like did the block dry out right after the rain, can the wall behind your shower dry out just as fast. the block could have dried the mastic up really fast and crystallized. a cinder block is more porous then a cement board. some mastic's stay damp and don't cure on some wall installs.
not to say some mastics wont hold good, I use Mapei too and like their stuff, the UltramasticEco is good.
but for most professionals choice in Their home or Reputation..its thin set.
maybe the low bidder of a track home would allow the basic mastic to cut costs,
I wont use type1 in wet a area. just on a back splash,wainscot, etc.
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Unread 11-13-2007, 05:45 PM   #9
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I'm sure that it works so well because the mastic dried well. It wasn't grouted in the first 24 hours after being set. I think that happens a lot in the real world.
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Hey Canuck, give us a first name.

And please do show us the finished result.
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Unread 11-13-2007, 06:49 PM   #11
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It this the one you said you used mastic to set the tiles???
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Unread 11-13-2007, 09:26 PM   #12
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Unread 11-14-2007, 03:45 PM   #14
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Project Pics

These pics got me to the point where:

starting with an empty room
framing
pouring cement for shower floor (that was stressful)
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Unread 11-14-2007, 03:48 PM   #15
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These pics...
CBU going up
struggled with the ceiling....used hardiboard in the end
waterproof membrane on floor and 6" up the walls
and the tiling started....shampoo niche was a pain
walls completed
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