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Unread 06-26-2021, 06:31 AM   #1
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Fireplace finishing

Folks - I have recently contracted with a fireplace company to build a gas fireplace. It will be installed in a corner as shown in the picture below with the sheetrock showing the size of th box. The whole area will be framed and sheetrocked. They can do stone work using cultured stone on the front but nothing on the top as they don't have any material that looks like a right angle.

Now I have a concern that should they use cbu instead of sheetrock for stone to adhere well and this is the response I received. I already have a contract with them, so I cannot back out now. Is this response ok in using sheetrock?

When doing the stone, we are able to install it over the sheetrock, and the non-combustible board that comes shipped above the top of the unit.* Before the stone is applied, the mason would apply a mesh guard that is mortared on to the wall.* After that, each piece of stone is individually mortared on to the wall.*

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Welcome A....

You might want to check with the manufacturer of the stone product you've selected to see if they have any substrate and material requirements for installing their product.

But FWIW, thinset mortar will stick to drywall quite tenaciously.
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Hello just so that I understand, are you saying the approach the fireplace company gave is sound? What I mean is will the stone weight pull down and collapse the sheetrock?

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Unless the manufacturer has their special requirement (why Dan suggested asking them), the drywall is more than sufficient for the weight. It is very common to install additional screws to secure the drywall, though.

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The finishing section of the manual has the below.

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You might want to check with the manufacturer of the stone product you've selected to see if they have any substrate and material requirements for installing their product.



But FWIW, thinset mortar will stick to drywall quite tenaciously.
@Tool Guy - Kg the installer is going to use cement board based on my request. Would that be good?

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Unless the manufacturer has their special requirement (why Dan suggested asking them), the drywall is more than sufficient for the weight. It is very common to install additional screws to secure the drywall, though.



Installer is willing to use cement board. Is that ok?

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Hello all - the fireplace company is willing to do cement board at no extra cost. Is this a better alternative than sheet rock?

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Sure, either one will work.
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Need some fireplace finishing advise

Hello all - the fireplace company can finish the front of my fireplace with cultured stone. It will cost about $50/sq ft installed for about 16 sq ft (they don't reduce the cost for the fireplace opening). So this will run me about $900. Is this a good finish or should I go for real stone? Also since this is a corner fireplace they do not have any material to cover the sheetrock on the top. Any recommendations for the top as a DIY project or maybe even use someone? The picture should clear up what I mean by the top.

The link to cultured stone is www.culturedstone.com

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John, please don't start new threads with the same project questions. If you don't think you're getting timely response, just make another post to your thread to bump it to the top of the queue for attention.

It's purely an aesthetic consideration. Don't know what you/they might mean by "cultured stone," but if it's the same "cultured marble" we frequently see in shower constructions, it may or may not have the look you want on your fireplace.

My opinion; worth price charged.
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Thanks. Do you know what happened to the responses on the new thread? It had some important links that I need.

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I provided link above to the type of stone. Hopefully that helps.

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There were no responses to the new thread when I combined it here, John.
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Davy already answered your drywall/cement board question, so I’ll respond to your latest:
I’ve understood “cultured stone” to mean a man-made version that has been cast to mimic the look of real stone. Either is fine. Whichever looks best to your eye. But I’m not sure I’d hire a contractor who will leave the top for you to finish. I don’t think it’s going to look finished and seamless if the top is put on later.

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