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Unread 09-26-2009, 05:34 PM   #1
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QuartzLock2 and StarGlass

I have really loved what I've experienced with StarQuartz thus far. Yesterday I talked to the reps at "THE" local tile shop where they were pushing the new urethane that doesn't require the added accelerator for wet area use. I'm excited about trying this out, but the stock of original StarQuartz has to sell off first I think.

I may actually put this in a shower if I can get my hands on it in two weeks. It requires the seven day cure time before water immersion just like the original with the accelerator, but it's work time is like the original without the added accelerator. Anyone use this stuff yet?

Also of interest is their "StarGlass" urethane coming out. It's a translucent product for glass installs ... sounds like cool stuff.
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Unread 09-26-2009, 09:35 PM   #2
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Matt, do let us know about the "starglass" product when you test it out. Ive got folks askin for no grout all the time.
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Unread 09-27-2009, 09:05 PM   #3
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Matt i too am intrested in the star quartz,just havent made the leap as of yet,too many new products this year my head is spinnin.
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Unread 09-29-2009, 02:27 PM   #4
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But are you charging extra labor to install urethane grout?? Or????????

I charge for urethane same as epoxy...........Its worth it to the customer since they never have to seal.................AND it Does take alot longer than a standard grout.........Of course i only have 5 or 6000 s/f of urethane under my belt so far but near as I can tell it takes 40% Longer on average to get a clean tack free finish......
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Unread 09-29-2009, 07:30 PM   #5
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40% more time todd, whats a good cleaner to use for the nxt day residue?
Also does it slump in the joint like spectra lock,leaving a low joint?
Whats your opinion of GROUT BOOST,i like it, just not sure how it will perform over the years. thanks.
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Unread 09-29-2009, 08:41 PM   #6
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I don't charge more labor for urethane or Opticolor. Kerapoxy ... definitely more. I do charge for the added material cost with Opti or urethane.

I haven't put in as much as Todd, but I think installing and cleaning the stuff is a breeze. I rarely have to second clean the urethane. Now, having said that, I will say I've never used it with the accelerator ... I would probably charge more for labor if I did.

Cement grout sucks, period.

I'm going to give the new urethane a go for a shower if I can get it. Otherwise, I've been using Opticolor for wet areas and entry ways. I like many Laticrete products, but I think Opticolor blows Spectralock away. I've been putting the stuff in vertical installs and cleaning it in 10 - 15 minute increments ... no sag and very little second cleaning.

Basically, I've begun to insist on Opticolor or QuartzLock. If the job is specified with a different product, I charge accordingly.
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Unread 09-30-2009, 07:01 PM   #7
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thanks for sharing, yeah cement grout does suck,im so tired of its unstable performance,shading ,bloching,efforvesing, i feel like im always the one to blame,like i forgot how to grout or may be i never knew
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Unread 09-30-2009, 07:11 PM   #8
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Like Todd said, I would usually upcharge for star quartz, spectralock, etc. But if all matt does is epoxy and urethane, I guess the upcharge is a fixed cost.

Permacolor and Tec XT are sooooooo much better than the old stuff.

As much as Matt and I get along, I hate epoxy grout.

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Unread 09-30-2009, 07:22 PM   #9
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I hate epoxy grout.
You should have used epoxy on the river rock ceiling. You would have loved it ...

... OK, probably not.

My charges aren't the same for all epoxy, urethane, cement, etc. With urethane and Opticolor the labor charge is the same as cement with additional charge for the more expensive material. For me, those two products go in just as quick as cement. (It's actually quicker, because I can turn the job over without sealing it).

Products like Kerapoxy and Spectralock do have increased labor charges. They are more time consuming for me.

I'm intrigued by the recent reports regarding Permcolor's color fastness and consistency, but I can only try so many new products in a year without making my head explode.
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Unread 09-30-2009, 07:39 PM   #10
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What's wrong with exploding heads? Didn't you ever see the movie "Scanners"?

Even with the Permacolor yo uneed to go back and seal, and buy sealer. Just picked up a fresh quart of miracle 511 $48 with tax!! Yikes!




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Unread 09-30-2009, 07:42 PM   #11
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Unread 01-24-2011, 06:26 PM   #12
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Any additional comments on StarGlass urethane grout?

I plan to use it on my kitchen backsplash. It's 1x2 glass subway tile from Modwalls.

TIA.

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I think you will like using the Star Glass urethane grout on it.

is it the recycled 1x2 glass tile by Modwalls ?
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I think you will like using the Star Glass urethane grout on it.

is it the recycled 1x2 glass tile by Modwalls ?
That's good to hear.

It's the Lush Santa Monica blend and I'll be using Aquamarine StarGlass.

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Unread 01-24-2011, 07:28 PM   #15
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nice color, really fresh looking.
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